“Cancer always catches people by surprise and will always be someone else’s problem...we are all terrified that one day, the someone else will be us.” Those are the words of oncologist and caregiver John Marshall in the new book Off Our Chests, a memoir he has co-authored with his wife Liza who was diagnosed with stage 3 triple negative breast cancer in 2006. Now 16 years past this life changing experience, Liza and John call their story “a candid tour through the world of cancer.” Honest and unafraid to be vulnerable, the Marshalls share in this episode what it’s like for a doctor to learn humility as a caregiver and a woman to face many levels of loss with courage and grace.