Hold on to your lucky red hats, because we've got a jam-packed, super-sized episode for you this week! First, we're joined by Shannon Guss (@shannongaitz) to discuss two Sideshow Bob episodes (that also feature operetta), Cape Feare (S05E02) and Gone Boy (S29E09). We also talk about what it means to be a Zoom kid, shows that scared us as children, and what song Shannon has a love-hate relationship with.

THEN, we're joined once again by the great animator/technical director Rob Oliver, who weighs in on his role in Gone Boy and how technology has changed animation over the course of his career. If for some reason you want to jump straight to that interview, it starts at 1:43:43.

Every week, Alex and Lindsay are talking about two episodes of the Simpsons, one from the classic era and one from the modern era, (ideally) linked by a common theme. Get in touch with us on Twitter (@SimpsonsThenNow) or via email at simpsonstanpod@gmail.com