More media companies are selling SaaS marketing tools, which begs the question, are machines replacing sales reps? For answers, our hosts turn to longtime SMB marketing expert Gordon Henry, the Chief Strategy Officer for thryv. Henry discusses recent growth in thryv's SaaS client base, and, oh yeah, the company's other business -- publish 1,000 yellow pages books. Stay in the loop with all things Borrell when you join our Research Alert Lists. As always, thank you for listening. If you like the episode, leave us a review!  Want to join the conversation? Share your comments at borrellassociates.com/podcast.