n this dialogue between two construction industry educators, listeners are treated to an intricate exploration of the roles of construction managers (CMs) and architectural technologists (ATs), as well as the dynamics of various contracting models. The conversation is especially useful for professionals and students interested in understanding the distribution of responsibilities in project management and architectural design within New Zealand's construction industry.

Ethan delves into the distinctions between traditional construction contracts and design and build contracts, as regulated by NZS 3910 and NZS 3916 respectively, unraveling the complexities of stakeholder relationships. The episode is laden with insights on how project managers and archit