In his long career, U.S. Army Lieutenant General Mark Hertling (Ret.) has met and worked with presidents, monarchs, and military leaders from around the world. But he has also faced times of great adversity, including life-and-death combat situations, and moments that require the courage to “speak up for what’s right.” Mark Hertling currently serves as adjunct professor of strategic leadership at the Crummer School, and provides leadership development to physicians in healthcare organizations. Listen and learn from his perspective on the conflict in Ukraine, the current mental health crisis, what it means to be American, and what is worth fighting for.

01:32 -- Guest intro, discussion of the conflict in Ukraine
06:08 -- Leadership on the world stage, comparing Zelenskyy and Putin
08:45 -- The post-pandemic mental health crisis
14:18 -- What it means to be American, what’s worth fighting for
23:35 -- Backstory, attending U.S. Military Academy at West Point
29:45 -- Career journey, leaders “not allowed to have a bad day”
34:16 -- Mark Hertling’s Crummer experience, Growing Physician Leaders
43:52 -- Career advice, becoming a military analyst at CNN

Books
Growing Physician Leaders by Mark Hertling -- https://tinyurl.com/5n7e3bf

Resources
Crummer Graduate School of Business -- https://www.crummer.rollins.edu/
Medscape article on physician suicide -- https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/806779-overview
USO article on military suicides -- https://www.uso.org/stories/2664-military-suicide-rates-are-at-an-all-time-high-heres-how-were-trying-to-help
Profile of Christina Maslach, Ph.D. -- https://psychology.berkeley.edu/people/christina-maslach
U.S. Military Academy at West Point -- https://www.westpoint.edu/
Mark Hertling’s Twitter, @MarkHertling -- https://twitter.com/markhertling/status/1559941585542041602
Mark Hertling profile at CNN -- https://www.cnn.com/profiles/mark-hertling-profile
American Battlefield Monuments Commission -- https://www.abmc.gov/

Credits
Guest -- Mark Hertling, https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-hertling-dba-57987066/
https://crummer.rollins.edu/faculty/mark-hertling/
Production by Victor Media Group, Inc. -- https://victormediagroup.co/
Creator / Host -- J.B. Adams
Executive Producer -- Gerard Mitchell
Technical/Production Design -- Angel Colon
Technical/Production Assistance -- Hao Do, Dassika Gilkey, Jaianne Gilkey
Audio Editing -- Manni Simon