Passion. Hard work. Gun toting cats atop flame nostriled unicorns. This is Karben4 Brewing in Madison, Wisconsin.

Bringing together the brilliant minds of Madison's brewing industry and beyond, Ryan Koga, Zak Koga and Joe Walts from Karben4 are joined in this episode by the legend - Kirby Nelson - of Wisconsin Brewing Company and Lake Louie and the best damn brewer of lagers - Clint Lohman - from Working Draft Beer Company.

In this episode, we get into the nitty gritty of Kirby and Clint's brewing industry origin stories and how they came to be where they are now.

Head to the taprooms at Karben4, Working Draft and Wisconsin Brewing Company/Lake Louie to say hi to the guys and indulge in the brews they've got on tap. And when you're visiting, use Destination Madison's 'Madison on Tap' craft beverage trail app for perks and prizes!

We'll have the whole gang back next week for more!

Send questions or topic ideas (or just tell us how much you love the pod) to: info@karben4.com.

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Cheers!