In this episode, Ben & Will speak with Aylwin Pillai, an environmental lawyer and partner in family-run Kinclune Estate and Organic Farm in Angus, Scotland. Aylwin shares her family's farming history, their agroecological approach, why she's an activist for nature-friendly farming & the important role small farms have in advocating for changes in land use. She shares how Kinclune is tackling climate change,  biodiversity restoration and carbon emissions through a holistic approach that includes woodland maintenance, agroforestry and conservation grazing.

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