In this episode Rachel Wilkins has a conversation with Toni Payne, the founder of The Champayner Social Club, a Still Life Photographer and Spoken Word Poet about the challenges associated with fulfilling clients’ visions as an artist. They also touch on the subject of dealing with how society frowns on art as a career and the ability to combine creativity with AI and Blockchain. In closing they talk about the fundamentally important parts of creatives and respecting their work, and how NFT’s, Web3 and the meta verse tie it all together.