In this episode, Rob and Vinnie continue the discussion of the Dragon and his pursuit of the woman--the people of God. We have seen that God's people are the means by which God brings redemption, but now we learn that there is a Dragon (Satan) who will oppose the work of God's people. The Dragon, of course, has always opposed the work of God's people only now he has been kicked out of heaven and he is really angry. The Dragon's pursuit of the people of God (the woman) continues as the woman is brought into the wilderness by God. Even though the wilderness is a place of protection and of God's provision, it is also where the Dragon wages war against them.

Rob and Vinnie then discuss the time frame of 3 1/2 years (42 months) and how this derives from Dan 9:24-27. They look at the Daniel passage--which is a key passage for those who espouse dispensationalism and the idea of a future 7 year tribulation--and provide a response to this view in light of Daniel 9.

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Show notes

The “war” (12:7) that took place in heaven now moves to the earth (12:17).

The Dragon “pursues/persecutes” the Woman (12:13).

Exod 19:4

“The Dragon was enraged at the Woman and went to make war with the rest of her offspring” (12:17).

The Dragon

- stood opposed to the Woman even before Christ was born (12:4)

- who opposed Christ and attempted to “devour” Him (12:4)

- has been thrown down to the earth (12:9, 13)

- and is endeavoring to “make war” with the offspring of the Woman (12:17)

The Woman’s offspring are “the ones who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus” (12:17)

“Forty-two months”; “1,260 days”; and “a time, times, and half a time”

Dan 7:25; 12:7

In 11:2 “for forty-two months”

In 11:3 “will prophesy for 1,260 days.”

Daniel’s designation of “a time, times, and half a time,” appears throughout the Second Temple literature to refer to a period of tribulation for the people of God

It is of limited duration.

In popular end-times scenarios, the “tribulation” is 7 years long.

Dan 9:24-27

Daniel 9 focuses more on the restoration of God’s people through the Messiah

Deut and Lev warn the people of Israel that if they do not obey God’s covenant then God will send them into exile at the hands of a foreign nation

• This happens in 605 BC when Babylon conquers them and takes Daniel and many others captive

Lev 26:15-17

9:1-19 Daniel prays for the restoration and vindication of Jerusalem

1st yr of Darius the Mede; 539 BC

Jer 25:11-12

Dan 9: 5-6—they have sinned

Dan 9:7, 14, 16 God is righteous

Dan 9:20-27 Angel Gabriel answers

Lev 26:18, 21, 24, 28: “If also after these things you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.”

• Weeks/sevens

Dan 9:26: Messiah will be cut off

Karat: ‘cut’: used to describe the cutting ritual associated the ratification of a covenant

‘He’ will confirm a covenant with many (27)

The use of higbir (confirm) suggests the confirming of a previous covenant and not the making of a new one (for that one would expect ‘karat’ to be re-employed)

• Thus, by His being ‘cut off’ (26)—through death—the Messiah will make firm the covenant (not a failure, but a success)
• We have the enforcing of the terms of a covenant that was previously in place; not the establishing of a new one

Dan 9:27 One will come who make desolation