In this episode we discuss principles of working and 'winning' with people. Life is full of relationships, and in ministry knowledge and theology is fleshed out in the context of community. So, how do we relate well to other people so that we are most effective in ministry. We answer questions about studying our spouse and whether or not we 'should' be listening to Taylor Swift (and other artists). We wrap it up with a game of is it Taylor Swift, or the Book of Lamentations.