In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Bhavin sits down with Danielle Cook  -  VP of Marketing, appCD and Co-chair, CNCF Cartografos Working Group, CNCF. The discussion dives into how technical individual contributors can and should think about a business case for cloud native adoption. They talk about the cloud native maturity model and also discuss the different things business leaders care about.   Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/    Cloud Native News:https://www.chainguard.dev/unchained/chainguard-series-chttps://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/23/google-wiz-deal-dead.htmlhttps://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-you-need-to-know-red-hat-openshift-416 https://blog.kubeflow.org/kubeflow-1.9-release/https://talks.devopsdays.org/devopsdays-boston-2024/cfp  Show links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-cook-/https://maturitymodel.cncf.io/https://community.cncf.io/cncf-cartografos-working-group/https://tag-app-delivery.cncf.io/whitepapers/platform-eng-maturity-model/ Timestamps: 00:01:36 Cloud Native News 00:12:07 Interview with Danielle00:51:20 Key takeaways

In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Bhavin sits down with Brandon Jacobs, an Infrastructure architect at Coreweave. They discuss how Coreweave has adopted Kubernetes to build the AI hyperscaler. The discussion dives into details around how Coreweave handles Day 0 and Day 2 operations for AI labs that need access to GPUs. They also talk about lessons learnt and best practices for building a Kubernetes based cloud.  Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/  Episode Sponsor: Nethopper Learn more about KAOPS:  nethopper.io For a supported-demo:  info@nethopper.io Try the free version of KAOPS now!   https://mynethopper.com/auth  Cloud Native News:https://siliconangle.com/2024/06/24/ollama-addresses-remote-execution-flaw-following-wiz-discovery/https://siliconangle.com/2024/06/18/suse-acquires-kubernetes-observability-startup-stackstate/  Show links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonrjacobs/https://www.coreweave.com/  Timestamps: 00:01:39 Cloud Native News 00:05:30 Interview with Brandon 00:51:37 Key takeaways

Ryan Wallner and Bhavin Shah talk to Andy Grimes about the OpenShift AI Landscape.Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/Episode Sponsor: Nethopper- Learn more about KAOPS:  @nethopper.io- For a supported-demo:  info@nethopper.io- Try the free version of KAOPS now!   https://mynethopper.com/authLinks- https://youtube.com/watch?v=nAT9U1vJ8x0- https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/12/kubertenes_decade_anniversary/- https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20240606882860/en/Mirantis-Collaboration-with-Pure-Storage-Simplifies-Data-Management-with-Kubernetes- https://falco.org/blog/falco-0-38-0/- https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/rancher-government-successfully-using-harvester-121100125.html- https://www.youtube.com/@PlatformEngineering- Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZj8j3fdXy4- Virtual Road Shows: https://www.redhat.com/en/north-america-red-hat-aws- AWS Gameday August 22nd: TBS- Boston Childrens Hospital RHOAI: https://www.redhat.com/en/creating-chris- IBM Open Source AI  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGedexBudQ&t=141s

In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Bhavin sits down with  Bernie Wu, VP Strategic Partnerships and AI/CXL/Kubernetes Initiatives at Memverge. They discuss about how Kubernetes is the most popular platform to run AI model training and model inferencing jobs. The discussion dives into model training, talking about different phases of a DAG, and then talk about how Memverge can help users with efficient and cost-effective model checkpoints. The discussion goes into topics like saving costs by using spot instances, hot restart of training jobs, reclaiming unused GPU resources, etc.    Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/ Episode Sponsor: Nethopper Learn more about KAOPS:  @nethopper.io For a supported-demo:  info@nethopper.io Try the free version of KAOPS now!   https://mynethopper.com/authCloud Native News:https://www.aquasec.com/blog/linguistic-lumberjack-understanding-cve-2024-4323-in-fluent-bit/https://kubernetes.io/blog/2024/05/20/completing-cloud-provider-migration/https://thenewstack.io/introducing-aks-automatic-managed-kubernetes-for-developers/https://www.harness.io/blog/harness-to-acquire-splitShow Links:https://www.linkedin.com/in/berniewu/https://criu.org/Main_Pagehttps://memverge.com/https://youtu.be/tY8YOMRuqWI?si=yB3hHqLUpYPZ-KWNhttps://youtu.be/ND4seSKpJHI?si=shh0iuA9qC-dO6ebTimestamps: 01:04 Cloud Native News 08:47 Interview with Bernie 51:40 Key takeaways

In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Ryan and Bhavin talk to Christian Posta - VP and Global Field CTO at Solo.io about all things Service Mesh. They discuss how things have evolved from the early Linkerd days to sidecar less istio service mesh implementations. They also talk about how service mesh can help you connect to application components running outside Kubernetes, and how developers and platform engineers have a shared responsibility model when it comes to implementing service mesh using internal developer platforms.   Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/  Episode Sponsor: Nethopper Learn more about KAOPS:  @nethopper.io For a supported-demo:  info@nethopper.io Try the free version of KAOPS now!   https://mynethopper.com/auth  Cloud Native News:  https://loft.sh/blog/our-24m-series-a-led-by-khosla-ventures/https://www.harness.io/blog/celebrating-150m-in-new-financing-to-accelerate-innovationhttps://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-announces-intent-to-acquire-api-security-company-nonamehttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/rouvenbesters_its-official-the-otomi-platform-has-activity-7194604616901120000-48g7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktophttps://www.wiz.io/blog/celebrating-our-1-billion-funding-round-and-12-billion-valuation Show Links: https://devsummit.infoq.com/conference/boston2024 https://www.solo.io/topics/cakes-stack/https://www.solo.io/  Timestamps: 00:06:10 Cloud Native News 00:15:37 Interview with Torsten 01:01:58 Key takeaways

In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Ryan and Bhavin talk to Torsten Steinbach - VP, Chief Architect for Analytics & AI at EDB about all things Vector Databases, Postgres, and why Data is important for building AI platforms. The discussion dives into how vector databases are different than relational databases and why using Postgres extensions helps organizations use their existing data for AI applications.  Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/  Kubernetes Community Days (KCD) in New York City on May 22nd, use the promo code “KUBERNETESBYTES” to get a 10% discount on your registration fees!   Episode Sponsor: Nethopper Learn more about KAOPS:  @nethopper.io For a supported-demo:  info@nethopper.io Try the free version of KAOPS now!   https://mynethopper.com/auth Cloud Native News:  https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/ibm-nearing-buyout-deal-hashicorp-wsj-reports-2024-04-23/https://www.wiz.io/blog/wiz-acquires-gem-security-to-reinvent-threat-detection-in-the-cloudhttps://techcrunch.com/2024/04/18/wiz-is-in-talks-to-buy-lacework-for-150-200m-security-firm-was-last-valued-at-8-3b/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/coreweave-secures-1-1-billion-in-series-c-funding-to-drive-the-next-generation-of-cloud-computing-for-the-future-of-ai-302133328.htmlhttps://kubernetes.io/blog/2024/04/17/kubernetes-v1-30-release https://dok.community/blog/become-a-data-on-kubernetes-in-2024-ambassador/   Show Links: https://www.enterprisedb.com/news/edb-acquires-splitgraph https://www.enterprisedb.com/resources/eventshttps://www.enterprisedb.com/  Timestamps: 00:03:22 Cloud Native News 00:17:45 Interview with Torsten 00:57:00 Key takeaways

Join Bhavin Shah and Ryan Wallner for a recap of announcments and news from KubeCon Paris 2024.Kubernetes Community Days (KCD) in New York City on May 22nd, use the promo code “KUBERNETESBYTES” to get a 10% discount on your registration fees!NethopperLearn more about KAOPS:  @nethopper.io For a supported-demo:  info@nethopper.ioTry the free version of KAOPS now!   https://mynethopper.com/authNewshttps://about.gitlab.com/blog/2024/03/20/oxeye-joins-gitlab-to-advance-application-security-capabilities/https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/unveiling-red-hat-openshift-415https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-nim-offers-optimized-inference-microservices-for-deploying-ai-models-at-scale/https://www.acorn.io/resources/blog/our-new-focus-developing-an-llm-app-platform-based-on-gpt-script-technology?fromOther=truehttps://loft.sh/blog/deliver-secure-kubernetes-multi-tenancy-with-new-vcluster-in-rancher-integration/https://www.observeinc.com/blog/stepping-on-the-gas/https://thenewstack.io/kubecost-2-2-covers-carbon-cost-monitoring-and-more/https://thenewstack.io/ovhcloud-unveils-roadmap-to-take-on-hyperscalers-from-europe/https://www.suse.com/c/meet-rancher-prime-3-0/https://www.suse.com/c/suse-releases-edge-3-0-highly-validated-edge-optimized-stack/https://www.fermyon.com/blog/introducing-spinkube-fermyon-platform-for-k8s https://www.cncf.io/blog/2024/03/19/announcing-the-ai-working-groups-new-cloud-native-artificial-intelligence-whitepaper/ https://github.com/Azure/kaito https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/updates/public-preview-kubernetes-ai-toolchain-operator-kaito-addon-for-aks/https://cloudnativenow.com/features/solo-io-delivers-on-cilium-support-promise-for-gloo-networks/ https://docs.solo.io/gloo-network/latest/about/overview/ https://github.com/kosmos-io/kosmos https://gateway.envoyproxy.io/blog/2024/03/14/announcing-envoy-gateways-1.0-release/ https://newrelic.com/press-release/20240319 https://siliconangle.com/2024/03/29/aviatrix-revolutionizes-networking-security-distributed-cloud-firewall-kubernetes-kubeconeu/

In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Ryan and Bhavin talk to Charlie Egan, Sr. Developer Advocate at Styra about all things Open Policy Agent or OPA. This episode is meant to be a 101 level episode, where we will learn what OPA is and how it can help improve the security posture for your applications running on Kubernetes. The discussion dives into some of the use cases for OPA and how it helps with Kubernetes admission control,  auditing, etc.   Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/  Episode Sponsor: Elotl  Links:  https://elotl.co/lunahttps://www.elotl.co/luna-free-trial Timestamps: 07:46 Interview with Charlie 01:02:00 Key takeaways  Show Links:  OPA Ecosystem https://www.openpolicyagent.org/ecosystem/OPA Envoy Integration https://github.com/open-policy-agent/opa-envoy-pluginCharlie's site: https://charlieegan3.comOPA Docs: https://www.openpolicyagent.org/docs/latest/OPA Playground: https://play.openpolicyagent.orgOPA Slack: https://communityinviter.com/apps/openpolicyagent/signup

Join hosts Ryan Wallner and Bhavin Shah of Kubernetes Bytes as they explore the complexities of Internal Developer Platforms (IDPs) with Chris Munford, CEO, and Dan Donahue, Solution Architect of Nethopper. In this episode, the team discusses the challenges of constructing IDPs, achieving the optimal balance of flexibility and prescriptive golden paths. The episode dives into the unique operations perspective required for effective implementation. Gain valuable insights and practical advice from industry leaders on navigating the evolving landscape of IDPs. Don't miss this insightful conversation on unlocking the full potential of IDPs for your organization.Timestamps00:06:24 - Discussion with Chris and Dan00:51:44 - TakeawaysEpisode LinksWhat Happened to Platform Engineering? (ebook/pdf)LinkedIn Audio Recording  "What Happened to Platform Engineering"Website resources on platform engineering/IDPLinkedIn Newsletter about KAOPS/Platform Engineering/IDP

In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Ryan and Bhavin sit down with Janakiram MSV - an advisor, analyst and architect to talk about how users can run Generative AI models on Kubernetes. The discussion revolves around Jani's home lab and his experimentation with different LLM models and how to get them running on NVIDIA GPUs. Jani has spent the past year becoming a subject matter expert in GenAI, and this discussion highlights all the different challenges he faced and what lessons he learnt from them.   Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/  Episode Sponsor: Elotl  https://elotl.co/lunahttps://www.elotl.co/luna-free-trial  Timestamps: 02:02 Cloud Native News 15:31 Interview with Jani 01:11:00 Key takeaways  Cloud Native News: https://www.techerati.com/press-release/octopus-deploy-acquires-codefresh-to-boost-kubernetes-and-cloud-native-delivery/https://www.civo.com/blog/kubefirst-joins-civo  https://cast.ai/kubernetes-cost-benchmark https://www.techradar.com/pro/vmware-customers-are-jumping-ship-as-broadcom-sales-continue-heres-where-theyre-moving-to https://cloudonair.withgoogle.com/events/techbyte-making-ai-ml-scalable-cost-effective-gkehttps://dok.community/dok-events/dok-day-kubecon-paris/ https://training.linuxfoundation.org/certification/certified-argo-project-associate-capa   Show Links: https://www.youtube.com/janakirammsv https://www.linkedin.com/in/janakiramm/- NVIDIA Container Toolkit - https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/cloud-native/container-toolkit/latest/index.htmlNVIDIA Device Plugin - https://github.com/NVIDIA/k8s-device-pluginNVIDIA Feature Discovery - https://github.com/NVIDIA/gpu-feature-discoveryHugging Face Text Gen Inference - https://huggingface.co/docs/text-generation-inference/indexHugging Face Text Embeddings Inference - https://huggingface.co/docs/text-embeddings-inference/indexChromaDB - https://www.trychroma.com/

In this episode of Kubernetes Bytes. Hosts Bhavin and Ryan dive into what makes up a Internal Development Platform (IDP). Bhavin and Ryan help to define what an IDP is, how it relates to the overarching topic of platform engineering as well as the pros and cons of implementing an IDP.00:03:01 - News00:12:11 - Discussion Topic on IDPsDiscount for KCD New York! https://community.cncf.io/events/details/cncf-kcd-new-york-presents-kcd-new-york-2024/Please make sure to use the voucher code “KUBERNETESBYTES” to get a 10% discountNews:https://www.cncf.io/blog/2024/02/08/strimzi-joins-the-cncf-incubator/https://github.com/Ume0344/mongokubehttps://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20240207876324/en/ZEDEDA-Secures-72M-in-Growth-Capital-to-Meet-the-Skyrocketing-Demand-for-Edge-AI-and-Computinghttps://fintech.global/2024/02/15/ktrust-secures-5-3m-in-seed-funding-to-revolutionise-kubernetes-securityhttps://thenewstack.io/kubernetes-predictions-were-wrong/https://cloudnativenow.com/features/crossplane-maintainers-add-python-support-to-control-plane/https://blog.crossplane.io/crossplane-v1-15/Links:Mercado Libre IDP Talk: https://youtu.be/y-X1ZcPxRnI?si=q9UoglFrZycIcZ_lIDP Companies and ProjectsCortexOpsLevelPortArgonautUpboundNethopperMia PlatformAmazeeConfigure8Otomi-CoreBackStage RoadieQoveryPluralKubermaticClutchLagoonGarden.ioPortainer

In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Bhavin sits down with Jason Dobies - Director of Edge Engineering at SUSE to talk about all things K3s. They discuss why Kubernetes is best suited for Edge deployments, and why K3s was built and how it helps users architect their edge solutions. The discussion goes into topics like Security, Storage, High Availability at the Edge. Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/  Episode Sponsor: Elotl  https://elotl.co/lunahttps://www.elotl.co/luna-free-trial  Timestamps: 01:20 Cloud Native News 06:01 Interview with Jason 50:42 Key takeaways  Cloud Native News:https://vmblog.com/archive/2024/01/29/dynatrace-to-acquire-runecast-to-enhance-cloud-native-security-and-compliance.aspx - https://chronosphere.io/news/chronosphere-acquires-calyptia/  Show links: https://k3s.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdob/

In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Bhavin sits down with Lukas Gentele, Co-founder and CEO of Loft Labs to talk about the vCluster project. They discuss how vCluster helps organizations run multi-tenant Kubernetes clusters, where each tenant gets access to a CNCF-conformant Kubernetes cluster, while still being able to deploy everything they need to build and run their applications on Kubernetes. The discussion goes into topics like how Security, Storage, CICD and GitOps work for virtual clusters running on the host clusters.    Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/   Episode Sponsor: Elotlhttps://elotl.co/lunahttps://www.elotl.co/luna-free-trial  Timestamps: 00:59 Cloud Native News06:51 Interview with Lukas55:09 Key takeaways Cloud Native News: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/krknchaos-joining-cncf-sandboxhttps://cloudnativenow.com/features/red-hat-makes-idp-based-on-backstage-generally-available/https://trilio.io/resources/trilio-announces-backup-and-recovery-for-red-hat-openshift-on-ibm-power-systems/https://snyk.io/news/snyk-acquires-runtime-data-pioneer-helios/   Show links: https://loft.sh/blog/how-codefresh-uses-vcluster-to-provide-hosted-argo-cd/https://www.coreweave.com/blog/coreweave-and-loft-labs-leverage-vcluster-in-kubernetes-at-scalehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gentele/https://www.vcluster.com/https://loft.sh/https://slack.loft.sh/

In the first episode of Season 4 for the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Bhavin sits down with Ahmed Bebars, Staff Software Engineer at NYTimes to talk about how the times uses Kubernetes and Platform Engineering to accelerate their developer productivity and improve developer experience. They talk about what the technology stack at NYTimes looks like, how the platform team has built a resilient platform on Amazon EKS and share some best practices for anyone starting their journey with Platform Engineering.Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/Timestamps:01:20 Cloud Native News09:55 Interview with Ahmed50:04 Key takeawaysCloud Native News:https://www.aquasec.com/news/60m-additional-funding/https://devclass.com/2023/12/12/docker-buys-atomicjar-to-integrate-container-based-test-automation/https://www.businessinsider.com/armory-acquired-startup-harness-7-million-2023-12https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/19/scaleops-looks-to-cut-cloud-bills-by-automating-kubernetes-configurationshttps://wraltechwire.com/2023/12/21/ciscos-latest-cloud-play-exec-explains-the-deal-for-tech-startup-isovalent/https://www.kubernetes.dev/resources/release/Show links:https://open.nytimes.com/https://tickets.kcdnewyork.com/https://github.com/abebarshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmedbebars/https://github.com/nytimes

Learn along side Bhavin and Ryan as they dig into some of basics of Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning and Deep Learning. They explore what terms mean, what the basic differences are and take an introductory look at how companies approaches to building and using models for various use cases.Newshttps://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-eks-pod-identity-simplifies-iam-permissions-for-applications-on-amazon-eks-clusters/https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/use-aws-fault-injection-service-to-demonstrate-multi-region-and-multi-az-application-resilience/Show LinksVector DB Talk DoK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxoqMgFKAlMhttps://www.kubeflow.org/docs/components/pipelines/v1/introduction/https://weaviate.io/blog/what-is-a-vector-databasehttps://huggingface.co/https://docs.ray.io/en/latest/ray-overview/getting-started.htmlhttps://kueue.sigs.k8s.io/docs/overview/https://www.datastax.com/guides/what-is-a-vector-indexhttps://www.datastax.com/guides/what-is-vector-searchhttps://medium.com/building-the-open-data-stack/whats-a-vector-database-c3e8b6bb0436https://www.pinecone.io/blog/aws-reference-architecture/

In this episode, Ryan and Bhavin talk about Kubecon + Cloud Native Con North America 2023 in Chicago, and discuss all the vendor announcements from the past couple of weeks. Kubecon North America was in Chicago and had more than 13500 attendees and shows a continuous increase in adoption of Kubernetes as the platform to run containers, virtual machines, AI workloads, etc.  Check out the KubernetesBytes website: https://www.kubernetesbytes.com/Ads:Ready to shop better hydration, use "kubernetesbytes" to save 20% off anything you order.Try Nom Nom today, go to https://trynom.com/kubernetesbytes and get 50% off your first order plus free shipping.Find all the links to the things we discussed during the episode here:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/169mrZGi7oYptuT1nXrmuy-uwIlrAYZ8jJR3p5vRZ5Vo/edit?usp=sharing

In this episode of KubernetesBytes, Bhavin and Ryan interview Viktor Farcic, a Developer Advocate from Upbound, the company behind Crossplane. Crossplane extends Kubernetes into becoming a universal control plane for more than what runs in Kubernetes, however, you get to manage everything in a Kubernetes-native way. Hear what Viktor has to say about Crossplane and what hes been up to.  01:35 Introduction 08:29 Cloud Native News 16:15 Crossplane with Viktor Cloud Native News https://www.chainguard.dev/unchained/series-b-funding  https://www.honeycomb.io/blog/introducing-honeycomb-for-kubernetes?hss_channel=lcp-12957659 https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/18/microsoft-launches-radius-an-open-source-application-platform-for-the-cloud/ https://docs.radapp.io/ https://thehackernews.com/2023/10/urgent-new-security-flaws-discovered-in.html https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatabackup/news/366557752/CloudCasa-now-offers-self-hosted-Kubernetes-backup-service https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kubecost-launches-cloud-cost-optimization-080000850.html   Links https://youtube.com/@UCfz8x0lVzJpb_dgWm9kPVrwhttps://docs.crossplane.io/ https://www.crossplane.io/community

In this episode of Kubernetes Bytes, Ryan and Bhavin sit down with Michael o'leary and Ibett A to talk about how developers can build multi-cloud secure architectures using Kubernetes and the principles of Shift Left and DevSecOps.   Check out the KubernetesBytes website: https://www.kubernetesbytes.com/ Join the Kubernetes Bytes slack using: https://bit.ly/k8sbytes  Ads:Ready to shop better hydration, use "kubernetesbytes" to save 20% off anything you order.Timestamps:00:00 Interview with Michael o'leary 18:50 Interview with  Ibett AShow links:  Boston Kubernetes Meetup - https://www.meetup.com/boston-kubernetes-meetup/

In this episode of Kubernetes Bytes, Ryan and Bhavin sit down with Alexandre Pauwels and Kevin Scheunemann at DevOps Days Boston to talk all about IDPs and Platform Engineering.   The discussion focuses on how organizations can build IDPs from open source tools and the how DevOps, SRE and Platform Engineering teams work together.  Check out the KubernetesBytes website: https://www.kubernetesbytes.com/Join the Kubernetes Bytes slack using: https://bit.ly/k8sbytesAds:Ready to shop better hydration, use "kubernetesbytes" to save 20% off anything you order.Timestamps:00:00 Interview with Alexandre Pauwels16:00 Interview with Kevin ScheunemannShow links: https://bitmantle.com/

In this episode of Kubernetes Bytes, Ryan and Bhavin sit down with Paul Bruce and Don Luchini - the organizers of DevOpsdays Boston and talk about the value of community, what DevOps means to them and how the event has evolved over the years.   Listen in to learn more about what to expect when you attend one of these events or meetups in the future, and the guests also share their perspective around DevOps, Kubernetes and Platform Engineering Check out the KubernetesBytes website: https://www.kubernetesbytes.com/ Join the Kubernetes Bytes slack using: https://bit.ly/k8sbytes Ads:Ready to shop better hydration, use "kubernetesbytes" to save 20% off anything you order.Try Nom Nom today, go to https://trynom.com/kubernetesbytes and get 50% off your first order plus free shipping.Timestamps:00:00 Interview with Paul Bruce22:25 Interview with Don LuchiniJoin the DevOpsDays Boston slack - https://bostondevops.github.io/