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69. James L. Conway’s The Boogens (1981)
26-11-2023
69. James L. Conway’s The Boogens (1981)
From the director who brought us some actually good episodes of Star Trek later in his career, this movie… it’s terrible. Bad jokes, unexciting nudity from Rebecca Balding, and one of the worst movie monsters you’ll ever see. You know that uncle or cousin of yours, the one that puts off an icky vibe? This is probably one of their favorite movies. So, skip the flick and just enjoy our re-telling of the story that is the movie The Boogens. This isn’t usually the case, but sometimes the podcast is better than the movie on Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast! You can reach out to us on Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) (2) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (3) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (4) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (5) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (6) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (7) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (8) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (9) Ti West’s X (2022) (10) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
68. Demián Rugna’s When Evil Lurks (2023)
12-11-2023
68. Demián Rugna’s When Evil Lurks (2023)
Content Warning: violence against children and by children is depicted in this film, as is violence against and by animals. This includes a scene in which an animal commits violence against a child. God is dead, welcome to beautiful Argentina! This time we reviewed a demonic possession apocalypse movie that absolutely slams. Put away your flashlights, your gunpowder, and your fear of death, because they won’t help you here! That’s right, it’s a zombie movie where instead of zombie you get demonic possession and the attempts of devils to be born into the world via Se7en-style bloat-bodies. There are rules to follow and fools to not follow them. Join us to figure out how that crazy Possessed-defeating doo-dad works in this most bonita episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast! You can reach out to us on Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) (2) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (3) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (4) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (5) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (6) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (7) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (8) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (9) Ti West’s X (2022) (10) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
67. Danny and Michael Philippou’s Talk to Me (2022)
29-10-2023
67. Danny and Michael Philippou’s Talk to Me (2022)
Content Warning: self harm Australian youths supplement their substance abuse with a fun demonic possession game. It the story secretly about substance abuse? Mental illness? Grief? Loss? White people? You tell us after listening to this podcast about horror movies. A podcast where we summarize the plot of a horror movie at you so you can decide whether or not you want to watch the movie after you find out everything about it. Wait, is that what this podcast is for? Wait a minute, is this movie secretly about the degradation of the family unit and the impossibility of parenting children in a world where the very formats and mediums of mischief are impossible to predict? Nah! It’s just Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast! You can reach out to us on Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) (2) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (3) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (4) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (5) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (6) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (7) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (8) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (9) Ti West’s X (2022) (10) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
66. Brian Duffield’s No One Will Save You (2023)
15-10-2023
66. Brian Duffield’s No One Will Save You (2023)
An Etsy girl makes a go of living her best life in her childhood home in a town full of people who hate for something that she did in her childhood. Also, there’s aliens and almost zero dialogue. Will it be good? Pack yourself up a pic-a-nic basket and head on out to a loved-one’s grave and plot your sorry ass in that ancestral grass to listen to this fortnight’s episode of Loathsome Things: a podcast about scary movies where we tell you which movies are scary, which movies are not scary, and break them down so you don’t have to watch them, but then we tell you to watch them… because that’s what our audience wants? Also, this episode features a bonus review of the Star Wars television thing: Ahsoka. If you listen closely, you can even hear the very moment that Josh finally realizes which character is played by Mary Elizabeth Winstead! You can reach out to us on Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) (2) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (3) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (4) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (5) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (6) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (7) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (8) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (9) Ti West’s X (2022) (10) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
65. Elliot Goldner’s Final Prayer (2013)
01-10-2023
65. Elliot Goldner’s Final Prayer (2013)
Content Warning: A smidge of animal cruelty is depicted in this movie, which we describe and may/may not do vocal sound effects for… John and Josh strapped microphones to the inside of their mouths for an entire day to bring you their first full-fledged found footage film review! This little gem blends found footage with possession/exorcism, folk horror, and [spoiler]. What a cool combination! A priest guy and a professional gadget-haver spend a lot of run time getting acquainted with one another and slowly building what will turn out to be a life-long friendship, though not without its ups and downs, all while a variety of priests come and go from their lives. Along the way, their learn valuable lessons about imperialism, how the church abuses its power over the population, and never leaving your buddy behind. Also, we kind of do a semi-review of the new movie Elevator Game at the end. So, you know, there’s that for ya. And, as a special bonus to our show-note readers, here’s the British TV Shows we invented in this episode, plus the band and album! British TV Shows that should exist: One House Tree Bunch of Love Heaven Basket Third Lane Mystery The Deacon's Revenge King Henry's Clunge The Dicar of Vibley And the Band - Album that should exist: Tale for the Blather – Their Sophomore Effort You can reach out to us on Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) (2) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (3) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (4) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (5) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (6) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (7) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (8) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (9) Ti West’s X (2022) (10) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
64. Tobe Hooper’s The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)
17-09-2023
64. Tobe Hooper’s The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre. What else is there to say? Content Warning: this film contains nearly as much deeply disturbing gruesome topic matter as it does wildly offensive ableism. And since it’s in the movie, it is also in the words we speak. Join us as we revel in the just amazingness that is, as one man was mis-quoted as putting it, “the most upsetting movie I didn’t hate.” It is a masterpiece and it is deeply troubling. If you worry you might not be up for the film, give us a listen as we chop up this movie into its constituent cuts and plop it down fresh and hot onto your ear-plates. That’s the kind of service and quality you can expect when you listen to Loathomse Things: A Horror Movie Podcast by two dudes who don’t live in Texas and in no way identify with the characters in this movie or recognize any of the settings, tropes, or styles. Now THAT’s Tasty! You can reach out to us thus, but you won’t! Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) (2) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (3) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (4) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (5) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (6) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (7) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (8) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (9) Ti West’s X (2022) (10) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
63. Ulli Lommel’s The Devonsville Terror (1983)
03-09-2023
63. Ulli Lommel’s The Devonsville Terror (1983)
Do you ever think about the town you live in? Did your ancestors live there? What did they do when they lived there? Were they bad to other people, maybe women or indigenous populations? Do you ever wonder if you are them? Has a doctor ever made you feel like you’re a buckle-hatted pilgrim wielding a knife of revelation while inducing seizures in your chaw-addled brain? Well, then you may be a Pendleton, of the Devonsville Pendletons! You see, 300 years ago the entire town of Devonsville did a witch hunt. Later, they were all named Pendleton and had much less facial hair than their ancestors. There may have also been some Warleys, who may have written everything down in some Gideon’s Bible-sized journals for no good reason. Also, something about belts made out of finger bones. I don’t know. This week we reviewed a movie that was asking the question “could a witch hunt happen today?” But that was 40 years ago, and here we are today among a mass of idiots banning books, actively organizing to overthrow the government, and persecuting anyone who isn’t a cis-gendered lily-white Christian. So join us in the flames as we place a curse upon the whole melty-faced lot in this most fundamentalist episode of Loathsome Things: a podcast for people who want to grow closer to god day by glorious day. Amen. You can reach out to us thus, but you won’t! Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (2) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (3) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (4) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (5) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (6) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (7) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (8) Ti West’s X (2022) (9) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016) (10) Bob Clark’s Deathdream (1974)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
62. Jay Woelfel’s Beyond Dream’s Door (1989)
20-08-2023
62. Jay Woelfel’s Beyond Dream’s Door (1989)
Did you know that when you forget your dreams, they get mad at you? It doesn’t matter if those are dreams of attractive young women in thin gauze, skinless bears coming for you in the closet, fake little brothers with bulgy eyes, or janitors with prosthetic limbs that fall right off. You see, when you go beyond dream’s door, the hatred doesn’t discriminate. Maybe it’s a fleshy tooth-book chomping your foot, maybe it’s a balloon that just wants to follow you and make an annoying sound before exploding, maybe it’s not-Pennywise cackling from the sewers or a horde of non-aggressive zombies. It just doesn’t matter. The dreams you’ve forgotten all hate you equally and if you tell a typewriter about those dreams, they will come for you and they will come for your gun-happy professor and his TAs. So, take a melatonin, brew yourself a pot of sleepytime tea, crank one out, and then lay your weary bones down before listening to this highly academic episode of Loathsome Things: a relaxing ASMR podcast about horror movies that will unlock your innermost potential at 666 hertz. You can reach out to us thus, but you won’t! Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (2) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (3) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (4) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (5) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (6) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (7) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (8) Ti West’s X (2022) (9) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016) (10) Bob Clark’s Deathdream (1974)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
61. Don Coscarelli’s Phantasm (1979)
06-08-2023
61. Don Coscarelli’s Phantasm (1979)
We reviewed a classic and scared John as a child and confused Josh as an adult. Imagine The Goonies, but with big naked California tits, fountains of blood, and the childhood drama of having everyone you love die. There, that’s Phantasm. Is it as simple as that? No! It’s much more confusing! Phantasm features multiple allusions to Dune, some strange overlap with Star Wars, and manages to be a strikingly singular piece of storytelling. Do we have any idea what the story it’s telling is? Can we explain it in the slightest? Did Josh tell a story about going to a place while unaware that he was getting sick and did the onset of those symptoms cause him to really screw up the end of this recording? There’s only one way to find out, by listening to the entirety of this ultra-high quality and exquisitely professional episode of Loathsome Things: the best podcast for fans of Phantasm and the only podcast you should listen to if you’re trying to figure out how to do a good job at making a podcast and writing podcast notes for your podcast podcast. Podcast! You can reach out to us on these players, but you won’t! Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (2) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (3) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (4) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (5) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (6) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (7) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (8) Ti West’s X (2022) (9) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016) (10) Bob Clark’s Deathdream (1974)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
60. Francis Teri’s The Suckling (1990)
23-07-2023
60. Francis Teri’s The Suckling (1990)
In 1990, first-time director Francis Teri pulled together a tiny budget, a team of mostly non-actors, and some really cool practical effects to make an amazingly tasteless, uncomfortably semi-humorous, and entirely baffling horror movie about a young woman receiving an abortion against her will and her aborted fetus becoming one of the most mind-bogglingly powerful horror movie monsters of all time. That’s right, it’s an abortion monster, and boy does it have a really weird plan! Tune in for an exploration of the thing you didn’t think could go wrong when you outlaw abortion in this episode of Loathsome Things: a horror movie podcast that cares about the mother’s life and the baby’s life, but absolutely hates men. And if you find yourself in need of more horror movie podcast goodness, check out the Bring Me the Axe Horror Podcast! They’re cool guys and cover the same types of movies we do! https://open.spotify.com/show/143VD2m2wUwWe90MA7j9NZ If you would like to recommend a movie, smuggle abortioneers across state lines, or ask us horror movie-related questions, you can do so by reaching out to us on Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (2) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (3) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (4) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (5) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (6) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (7) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (8) Ti West’s X (2022) (9) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016) (10) Bob Clark’s Deathdream (1974)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – American teens take an evil train ride across bad-times Yugoslavia! The Pit (1981) – A coming-of-age story about seeing boobs, evil teddy bears and feeding beasts! The Suckling (1990) – An abortion monster kills a house full of sex workers on his way home!
59. The Mo Brothers’ Macabre (2009)
09-07-2023
59. The Mo Brothers’ Macabre (2009)
The Jo Brothers cover The Mo Brothers with this delightful jaunt down the road to a slasher commonly referred to as The Indonesia Chainsaw Massacre for entirely appropriate reasons. What starts off as torture porn then devolves into madcap mindless violence before finally metamorphosing into some really tremendous fight scenes that make the film’s early goings-on worth it. This movie is an underappreciated gem that suffers for being from a country that western audiences have largely ignored. Listen to us break it down and really get after it in this all-new episode of Loathsome Things: A Highly-rated Podcast for People Like Me!   Also, we end up talking about our feelings about Rob Zombie… again… because we’re two cool dudes. If you would like to recommend a movie, share your top-10 list of Indonesian films, or ask us horror movie-related questions, you can do so by reaching out to us on Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (2) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (3) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (4) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (5) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (6) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (7) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (8) Ti West’s X (2022) (9) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016) (10) Bob Clark’s Deathdream (1974)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – Not a great horror movie, but so much fun to watch! The Pit (1981) – Watch this coming-of-age story about seeing boobs and feeding beasts!
58. Joe D’Amato’s Beyond the Darkness (1979)
25-06-2023
58. Joe D’Amato’s Beyond the Darkness (1979)
From the New French Extremity to some old Italian Sleaze, good, clever Loathsome Things is here to make everything nice for you, our sweet, sweet babies! From the guy that mostly did hardcore porn with a splattering or horror-porn crossover films, comes a film that advanced the boundaries of gore and showed us that the most potent strains of marijuana in history looks surprisingly exactly the same as 1970s euro-lady pubes. That’s right, it’s schlocky, it’s exploitative, it’s unfortunate, and it’s all set to Goblin’s most perplexing soundtrack, it’s the 1979 horror cinema experience from the cum-soaked mind of Joe D’Amato lovingly and alternately known as Beyond the Darkness, Buio Omega, Buried Alive, In Quella Casa Buio Omega, House 6: El Terror Continua, and Zombi 10. Tune in to learn all this information and so much more in this most absurd episode of Loathsome Things: the official horror movie podcast of 1970s bush-centric European stag films! If you would like to recommend a movie, tell us what kind of wine comes in that kind of bottle, or ask us horror movie-related questions, you can do so by reaching out to us on Twitter: @LoathsomePod Instagram: @LoathsomePod Facebook: @LoathsomePodcast Email: LoathsomeThings@gmail.com The Loathsome Things Official Top 10 Greatest Horror Movies of All Time List (of those we've reviewed for an episode of Loathsome Things: A Horror Movie Podcast) (1) Andrzej Żuławski's Possession (1981) (2) Brian De Palma’s Carrie (1976) (3) Rose Glass’ Saint Maud (2019) (4) Bob Clark’s Black Christmas (1974) (5) George A Romero’s Night of the Living Dead (1968) (6) Alex Garland’s Men (2022) (7) Miike Takashi’s Audition (1999) (8) Ti West’s X (2022) (9) Jeremy Gillespie and Steven Kostanski's The Void (2016) (10) Bob Clark’s Deathdream (1974)   Honorable Mentions: Beyond the Door III (1989) – Not a great horror movie, but so much fun to watch! The Pit (1981) – Watch this coming-of-age story about seeing boobs and feeding beasts!   Transcript Josh  Body of a *****. Body three times. Pain and torture. First body in a bed. Body growing dead body in a crypt body. Hell fire dipped. Body ringing bell body into hell. Always be a taker. Meet your maker. No one's life you save robs some in your grave. It's loathsome things, a horror movie podcast with be the Josh and he the John. John. How are you on this most horrific of?  John  I'm hell be.  Josh  Dipped dipped hell fire dipped.  John  Hell be doing whatever the **** it was. Somebody actually wrote a rhyme to go along with whatever they said in Italian.  Josh  I know, I know. Like someone's job was to come up with a little, like set of rhyming couplets to to go with whatever was actually. Supposed to be there.  John  Man, I would love to see this movie in Italian with English subtitles.  Josh  Ohh man yeah that would be good. You could also do what I did. I watched the movie that this is a remake of in Italian without subtitles.  John  Ohh, that's even better. Yeah, the third eye, right?  Josh  The third eye? Yeah, it's it's real confusing when you have no idea what. People are saying.  Josh  So, John, what are we?  Josh  Even talking about.  John  Oh my God, I'm so glad you asked. Because this time around. We shall be talking about. We're going to talk about a little Italian schlock exploitation film that was directed by a fine fellow named occasionally named Joe Di Amato.  Josh  Some types named Joe Demon.  John  1970 nines. Delightful and absolutely delicious. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm a moron beyond the darkness.  Josh  Also known by other names. A lot of other names, some of them. Some of them just just out of nowhere. That thing, but yeah, it was the whole thing. Apparently the director, Joe D'amato, was friend with Mino Guerini, who directed the third eye. And one day they were hanging out. Just spit balling ideas and he was like, hey, what if I remade your movie but made it sleazier?  John  It's an interesting film. It's gonna be fun to talk about. I liked the I was excited to hear that Goblin did the soundtrack, or as they mistakenly referred to. Them the goblins. But except for a few bits, overall, the soundtrack is terrible.  Josh  Yeah, it's if you have ever had your manager pop in a VHS tape so you could watch a training video on your first day on the job, then you know what this movie sounds.  John  Like please contact the HR department if you have any issues with other employees.  Josh  There are times where the soundtrack's really cool, like they'll purposefully hit these flat notes to like, reflect what's going on, like like it's entertaining at times and other times just very irritating.  John  When I make my movie, I'm going to have the entire soundtrack be done live with a guy with a French horn who just makes fart noises.  Josh  Yeah, I I want. I want my life soundtrack to be done by someone with a severe anxiety disorder that wasn't given their medicine today and they have to like. They're always trying to catch up with what's going on, like, Oh my God, I can't believe this is happening to me. The soundtrack I want.  John  They have to play it on a hooter.  Josh  Of course, Goblin to they did the soundtrack for the original dawn of the dead phenomena, Suspiria and Tenebre. So lot of lot of good Italian movie horror movies with that, and by a lot I mean mostly just those that I listed. They also had a song in Shaun of the Dead.  John  Yeah, that's true. And just in case you really enjoyed this music, in which case, by the way, you're an idiot. It was also used in the films the other Hell and Hell of The Living Dead, because in Europe all horror films are of the Living dead.  Josh  And one thing that was cool. So the actor in here, Frank Astolfi, who plays clever, sweet, good Iris actually was reunited with this soundtrack whenever she starred in the other hell.  John  Wonderful. The amazing franca stoppi. Veteran of the Women's Prison series of films and also a little a little number known in English as dog lay afternoon or in its native Italian bestiality or something like that.  Speaker 5  Good it is what you think it is if.  Josh  If, if you're if you're.  Josh  Catching on to to a like a a niche like a specific what? What what's happening here? So I want to go into a little bit about Joe D'amato. Joe D'amato is the king of 1970s and 80s Italian sleaze cinema. He has 199 directing credits to his name and about 100 and 21120 of those are just straightforward *********** videos.  John  Gotta love it.  Josh  This is one of his most famous horror movies, along with Anthropophagus and the semi sequel to that absurd, this came out. This film came out during his horror **** over crossover era, which included Papaya love, goddess of the cannibals, orgasmo. Arrow, Emmanuel and the white slave trade ****** Knights of the Living Dead and poor no Holocaust.  John  **** in a that is fantastic. By the by the way, and Trump of Vegas and that absurd are those movies are.  Josh  Yes, they they rock. This guy like while while he was mostly about the the ******* and portraying the penetration and stuff like that he when his in his ***** she was like we need to really like push the boundaries of what's allowable as far as gore is concerned and. Boy, does he ever. And it is fantastic. Like this isn't the kind of movie that you would expect to watch and think ohh wow, this contributed to the artistry of horror. Cinema but it. Actually does and it's amazing also very.  John  Yes, yes, yes, on all counts. The it's funny because he I was reading a little bit about it and said that he he was kind of down on his own ability to build suspense. In other words, he couldn't do it. So he went ahead and just did the extreme. Shock value instead, and he's very proud of that which he damn well ought to be.  Josh  Yeah, yeah, I like that. He's like, I don't feel confident in my ability to build suspense, so I'm just gonna not try.  John  You got to know your strengths. I like that the.  Josh  Like what if?  John  Ohh yeah, go ahead. Well, I was gonna say.  Speaker 5  No, no, you.  John  It was a. The film was released in 87, called in Inquiry a Casa built Omega to try to to try to pass it off as being related to the Evil Dead series, which it of course was not at all, and then it was released in Italy as Lacasa and. Macasa do way I guess as you would. Today in Spain, the movie was marketed as being a sequel to the House franchise. Therefore, House 6 and then El Terror, or El Perro continua, and then in Mexico it was billed as being part of the.  Josh  Zombie franchise it was listed as Zombie Ten. Oh my God. Yeah, this is. That's one of my favorite things about this era of horror movies is like. It's just nonsense. They're like, what if we just said it was part of another thing? And I I honestly think that's beautiful. I I love it because it just creates such a tangled mess of history to try to a.  John  Not it wasn't. Wasn't Fulci's zombie build as? Night of the Living Dead sequel wasn't that I think so, yes, yeah. It's all complete ********. No one gave any *****. I love Italians. They just lie and they don't give a damn. I was looking for the Napolitano Pizza house. Is it this direction C?  Josh  Thank you. John  Where am I? There's no pizza restaurant here.  Josh  Let's see Joe's other directing credits include Ator, the Fighting Eagle famous from mystery science.  Speaker  Right.  John  Theater 3, yes.  Josh  The Devil's wedding night, the crawlers. Black Cobra woman paradiso, blue blue, ****** climax. Super Climax sex penitentiary cop sucker cop. Sucker two and zombie 5.  John  Oh, my God. Get it together. OK.  Josh  Yeah, famously in the 1990s he was resistant to the change from film to video in the pornographic **** ***********. And he was like, yeah, it just doesn't feel as good. But I guess I'll do it. He also didn't like the fact. People wanted *********** to just portray a lot of extreme sex. He really wanted it, which is funny when you. Watch this movie. He was like, yeah, but what about the story element? Don't want the story element of *********** anymore.  John  What about the art?  Josh  So, yeah, this movie stars Kieran Kantor as Frank. Kieran Kantor would go on to be in some ****, but not much.  John  Yeah, basically just a bunch of soft **** or not a whole lot of. What was the other like? What do you say? Monreale Monreale, who plays Anna.  Josh  And spoiler alert, she's awesome. Oh no, she also plays Elena.  John  She plays her sister. Yeah, she's Christ. She was she was in full. She's the beyond, which is absolutely ******* **** ***. I love that moon. She's the lady with the whited out eyes.  Josh  Also, she was in full cheese. The Sweet House of horrors.  John  That I have not seen it sounds delightful.  Josh  Yeah, I know. That's what is you doing in here?  John  She was and Dario Argento. Argentos the Stendahl syndrome, so a definite veteran of some classic horror, even outside of this fine piece of film.  John  This fine pizza.  John  Which I'm so glad was shot on 16 millimeter film, apparently because if it had it been shot on video, it would have looked bad.  Josh  So a lot happens in this movie. John, do we need to warn? I mean, there's a yeah. There's a dead baboon. That was kind of upsetting. I forgot about that.  John  Yeah, that was upsetting. There was some possible well hints. More at necrophilia, probably in the Italian version. Straight up necrophilia. Yeah, there was a lot of dancing around, some really terrible things. If you're not a fan of of using actual pig body parts to make your gore scenes, then this is not the movie for you. If you don't like to see.  Josh  Grown men breastfeed. This is probably not gonna be the one for.  John  You, Jesus Christ. Yes, I forgot. Forgot about the breast. Feeding their nursemaid.  John  Oh my God.  Josh  This movie is ridiculous. There's also if you're offended by the naked female Bush, then this movie is not gonna be for you.  John  Yeah, you better get whipped. The hedge trimmers out because this one goes for it, yeah.  Josh  Ohh some some very homage to Herschel Gordon Lewis dismemberment so. So just be prepared for that before you view it, which you may have already done. Because we told you 2 two weeks ago.  John  In 2023, the the It's kind of you'd be kind of hard pressed to find the effects believable, but if you're squeamish and you're not somebody that you know, if you just react to that stuff, period, then yeah, this this movie might be a little tough for you to watch.  Josh  Yeah, I liked that there was. There was a a fake arm, just like the one in dance mapu, but the IT was. Like, oh, the one in dance mapu. Actually does look better than this. One nice technology advanced that's right, moving right along.  Josh  Yeah, you couldn't see through.  Josh  The one in dance mafoo.  John  Ohh yeah, I also wanted to mention which I thought was hilarious, that the reason Francastel Papi got the role. Toby was because another actress agreed to play Iris, sight unseen, read the script and was like no. And Frank Estopa, I was like.  John  Well, **** yeah, I'll do it.  John  Nice because she's awesome. What a trooper. Kick us off. Alright, well, the movie starts with a weird looking European red van truck driving through the woods while we listen to pretty awful goblin music. It's very 70s, of course, the guys driving along in his obscenely loud truck and he arrives at what I would describe as a ship house. He gets, gets out and meets a swarthy other douche, and then they work together to lift a very heavy box inside the van. Then Jordi Ouche leaves. He gets back in his van because it looked like he was wearing jordash jeans. If I was, if I wasn't mistaken, OK.  Josh  Just wondering where that was coming, Jordan?  John  So he drives away and we cut to a hazy filtered shot of a Crone, putting needles in voodoo dolls. While that are basically, you know based on a picture of the main character and what I'm assuming is his girlfriend, which of course it is and. Another lady with weird lips is sitting there watching this happen, and she's obviously loving it, so that's that's setting up something. They the the girlfriend, as it turns out, is in the hospital, ****** ** and moaning and she is doing a lot of gasping and then sort of red lines. Except I don't know what that meter is that's regulating her heart. I looks like something else entirely, but whatever.  Josh  I think it I think it's measuring whether or not her makeup needs to be replaced.  John  There's some lady in there who I thought was a nurse, but she like. Very not too worried, gets up and says. Nurse and then a doctor comes in and gives her an Ivy shot of some sort, and then she moans a lot and calls for Frank. So that's the red. That's the jordache. So meanwhile, Frank arrives at a Chateau and opens the little gate drives in. Suddenly the box. That he carries inside by himself is really not that heavy anymore, which I thought was interesting. He brings it into the Chateau and unpacks what turns out to be a dead male baboon. Which looked like a dead male baboon. It was pretty disgusting, not not disgusting, but little disturbing. He doses it with some sort of amber juice in this giant syringe that he has. And then while this is going on, the lady with the lips is snooping as he. Leaves that room and heads upstairs into the Chateau. Back at the hospital, the dying lady wants makeup as as you do, and the nurse deftly applies man makeup on with might. Might as well be a house painting brush. She's just like. Ah, there you go. It's so great back again at these chitter lips picks up. She picks up after douche cause he's he's made a mess in his bedroom, you know, cause he's a he's a naughty boy who's, like 30, she tells Frank. That the hospital called and then naked and tan Frank comes out. Grabs like with his clothes holding his junk, which I don't know why shy after what happens later, but he grabs his regular clothes and calls lips a stupid idiot for not telling him sooner.  Josh  You stupid idiot.  John  Back at the hospital, Frank Frank rushes in. He runs into. The best character in the movie, a random old person. With a funny.  Josh  Hey, where'd you get your license?  Josh  I I want to know what the original like was that what it was supposed to be in the original, or I can't imagine.  John  God only knows he's great. He he gets to, he gets to Anna's bedside, and he tenderly makes out with her to death. Back at the back at.  John  The ship, yeah.  John  In a very ornate bedroom, apparently Frank is the King of Italy. Uhm, he mopes. He's like sitting at this little desk or, you know, bedside, dresser or whatever. Just moping over these two horrible photos like one of of two people, another, neither of which look like her. And then a big portrait of himself. And he's just like, moping and then lips comes in and. You know, I mean, it's perfectly understandable. He's he's having a hard time. His girlfriend just died. So she whips it tight out and breastfeeds him. And it's extremely sexual and very strange.  Josh  Yeah, yeah. She's just, like, cooing at him and telling him that everything's gonna be OK and saying her own name over and over to him, she's like, it's OK. Sweet, Sweet Iris is gonna make everything good for you.  John  And he's like.  Josh  So bizarre this is the point. Whenever I first watched the movie I. Ohh I have to show John.  John  Doing it now we're back at or we're we're at at the Funeral Home and she's in her casket and Frank goes to visit her and he juices her with the amber hoist that he gave the baboon. While for no reason. The mortician who had just left. In the other room peeks back in to spy on the guy. What what reason? He's just sitting there, looking at her. He doesn't look weird or anything, and the dude peeks back in just in time to see him inject the juice into her neck. Then it's her funeral. There's a bunch of very serious Italian people in the background are a bunch of half naked Italian guys who are, like, working on something I don't. I think it was a mistake that they left that in the shot or something.  Josh  They're probably working on the *********** in the background.  John  I was like, are those people naked? What is going on?  Josh  Back there I didn't notice. I'll have to go back.  John  And watch it again.  Josh  It's ohh no.  John  It's so weird.  John  They they lower her casket with two ropes into this really narrow hole. That's like super deep. And then they show, like her parents, you know, mourning her mother has a gargantuan cold sore on her lip. Then her dad's there and a super hot blonde lady who looks just like her named Ellen's dad after the funeral, begs the priest essentially to do all The Dirty work. Because he can't handle, it's too much for him so he could bail and his wife can leave Italy. The daughter is gonna stick back though, and and complete her school. The mortician is is very conspicuously snooping on the proceedings. Now we're back at the cemetery. It's at night, and there's there's George Douche digs. Anna, who, by the way, is suddenly like, 6 inches below the surface, like, somehow the. And there's roses on top of her casket, which are clean, even though he just dug her up. He takes her and wraps her up in like a blanket and takes her and and then he drives the the van and spots a hitchhiker out in the middle of ******* nowhere. Who's like, hey, stop. And he just drives away.  Josh  But much to his. Misfortune, his tiny red van gets a flat tire. He has to stop. He changes the tire. There's some police officers in a station wagon. They offer him help. He's like, Nah. And then they drive along, he gets back in his van and ohh the the British hitchhiker from earlier is now in the passenger seat. She's just invited herself into his car and is offering him high-powered weed. Which she then begins to roll a joint and we can all see that it is **** tobacco. Just it's just so obvious. It is if you've ever rolled tobacco and you got the like Bally, **** or something, you know what this is? It's not weed. Weed does never look like this.  John  No, it looks like if somebody took the world's smallest sheet of brown paper and ran it through the world's smallest paper shredder, yes.  Josh  And she's just going on and on about how like she even says that this stuff is worth its weight in gold and how like it's gonna, like, really, like, knock your **** out or whatever. She she rolls it up. She takes a. Passes it to him and he's like, no, thank you. And then she just passes out, like she cannot handle her ****. There's also a thing that's supposed to be suspense, which Joe D'amato has said he cannot do about like Anna's hand flopping in through the little window and him like. Her not seeing it and him trying to hide it, it does nothing. It's stupid. Yeah, I love how they tried to set it up by having him notice that the glass window that took effort to move just opens on its own for some reason. Yeah, I love how jiggly Anna's body is, too. It is just. It's another case of the very bouncy cars of yore.  John  It's that it's that brown juice.  Josh  Yeah, that jiggly brown juice. Uh, back at home, Frank unloads Anna's body and dissects her while the hitchhiker is still asleep in the van. Anna's ***** can be seen prominently and look remarkably similar to the **** tobacco that is keeping this whole situation afloat. There's some great skin cutting and gut pulling scene. This is done with the aforementioned pigskin and guts from the slaughterhouse. It looks real good, but apparently they like. Soaked the pig guts in red dye because like it is just staining her skin in a very not normal blood way, but it still looks great and there's like this whole scene where it's like she's lying naked on the table and you can see this like this pink foldy lip incision running down her body. And it's like, wow, that looks really gross.  John  Yeah, yeah, they did a good job with that as impress.  Josh  Yeah, and she almost did a really good job of looking dead and not like giggling at being tickled or like breathing and stuff like that. Every once in a while, you're like, oh, I saw you. I saw you. But you know.  John  She does a pretty good job for for someone who has to basically do nothing on camera.  Josh  And then then Frank Yanks out Anna's heart. He kisses it and then takes a big old chunky bite out of it, which causes blood to spurt out of the ventricles. It's so stupid. It's really stupid and amazing. Yeah, but yeah, it's real dumb. And it doesn't make any sense with the type of stuff that happens later in this movie, much less the stuff that has already happened.  John  And he's like, semi orgasmic when he. Does it too.  Josh  Oh yeah, he's super into it. Also, that heart is enormous.  John  It's like the size of his skull. I read that they used to sheep's heart and I just was looking at. That and going. I don't think that's a. Real heart that looks.  Josh  Plastic. I don't know. I don't know. Then he he pulls out his copper tubes, which he gets all heated up and shoves them just right up into Anna's nostrils. And then he vacuums out annae's guts. I guess her brain. Through the nose and it comes out as the chicken Mcnugget pink slime that we all saw on YouTube back in the day.  John  A watermelon smoothie.  Josh  So apparently all you do is you just shove a copper tube into each one and you start pushing air through one end and everything from the body just comes out the other tube in a nice like protein shake style.  John  Cleans it, right?  Speaker 5  Yeah, it's good you don't have.  Josh  To do anything. At the time, Nope. You ain't gotta blend it. Up it's fine.  John  No prep work at all.  Josh  At this point, the hitchhiker wakes up flops her way around the whole place, finds Frank doing this horrible thing with a dead body, screams, and then Frank goes and grabs her to get her.  John  To to get her.  Josh  And then he grabs a giant pair of like horse nail Clippers or something. And then while she is screaming and struggling for her life, he. Carefully and precisely proceeds to rip her fingernails off of her hand while she's screaming and struggling, and then after he gets the fingernails off of one hand, he smothers her to death. What's going on there, bro?  John  It makes no sense. And her screams are agonizing.  John  Ohh man yes.  Josh  And it's like that scene that is like the most. Italian horror movie scene I've ever watched in my life. He's like, ah, yes, you're screaming here. Let me torture your fingernails. I'm so strong.  Speaker 5  Then I'll smother you to death.  Josh  He stashes her body in the tiny van, which we can now see is about four feet tall. It it's really an amazing Little Feat of engineering. We see that Iris has witnessed the whole thing. She looked sternly at him. Then helps him dress Anna's body in a nice gown, paints her fingernails red, and they put her in the Lucy Desi twin bed up against each other. Situation the the next morning the the baboon guy shows back up. His client is interested in the baboon, he says, and he wants to. He wants to buy it back from from Frank and so he can sell it for a bunch of money. Frank's like, no, I don't need money. I don't do this for this. This is my hobby guy. That's right. He's he's. Yeah, he does. Taxidermy. Lots of taxidermy everywhere.  Speaker 5  It's so stupid.  Josh  It's so stupid and it turns out that it's just to let the funeral guy sneak into the house. We see him sneaking in through a back room. He doesn't find the Hitchhiker's body, but he does find some blood. He finds her necklace and then he gets back in. The funeral guy pays paid the the baboon guy the baboon. Guys like hell. What was the deal with that? And he's like, hey, why don't you go **** ***? Guy Frank sees that someone snooped it. It turns out that Iris hid the body. The two of them go into the bathroom now together after, like, saying. Mean things to each other to dispose of the body. They start taking all of her clothes off. She's a large woman, yeah. Iris starts hacking off body parts just like she's got. She's got this big butchers axe and she's just like looking around trying to figure out where to even begin. And then she just like, it's like, all right, I'm going to start over here and starts hacking away over here. Has a breathing mask on and he starts filling the bathtub with acid from. Bottles of what you would assume is port wine because it's a green glass bottle with the rope.  Josh  Stuff on the outside.  Speaker 5  It's like a.  John  Tea and tea bottle.  Josh  And they have five of. Them he just keeps.  Josh  Pouring more and more acid into the bathtub and he like the scene. Goes on forever. So she's she's chopping off the head. She like she. You see it? She like hangs. It's like dangling. She's got it from the hair. She flings it in there. So it's this horrible flesh eating acid and she's just chunking body parts into it without any regard for the splash.  John  No regard for the splash. She has no body protection on of any kind. He's wearing a giant rubber apron and gloves and that stupid mask, and she's just going.  Josh  They did a great job. It's it's one of those situations where, like they had the the actor like, move her head over to the side so that you don't see it in the shot anymore. Cause now it looks like she's like her head is gone. Same thing with her arm. They're just chopping off bits. It's real good, but it goes on forever. And at first, you're like, wow, this is taking too long. And then after a. While you're like this. Is ******* amazing.  John  I mean afterwards they have real carnage on the floor and she's like. Scooping up chunks of meat and like hip sockets and just blood like actual animal blood, you could tell just by looking at it. It's really disgusting and she's like basically cleaning up the carnage that she left behind and just, you know, and then the meantime, like dumping it all into this bathtub. Yeah, it's ******* great. I loved this scene. I love when the the cheesy skull with the eyeball still in it. Like floats up to the surface of the tub.  Josh  So much eyeball stuff in this movie, I didn't mention it earlier, but the part that the hitchhiker walked in on was when he was like, shoving a fake eye into Anna's empty eye socket. And she's.  Speaker 5  Like, it's so good.  John  Oh my God. And then so then. Let's buries the. Loopy remains of the hitchhike Chris and then and then afterwards they're in the they're in the kitchen slash. Eating table, whatever he's sitting at the table, she's washing up, like cleaning the bucket out from. You know this, this burial or dumping or whatever. And then without washing her hands or anything, she pours 2 bowls of disgusting soup. And then while she's doing and then she sits down and starts eating it like she's. Some kind of like cave woman. Just it's just like like basically just taking hands full of it and justice rubbing it across her face, hoping some will get in her mouth. And Frank is is is clearly like in his mind, he's seeing the gore from the scene earlier and then he can't take it, he gets up and barfs. What I can only describe his heavy cream. It's like, what the hell did this guy just drink a Fort like a pint of heavy cream for breakfast?  Josh  He up Chuck some half and half.  John  So it's so disgusting.  Josh  And she's still got, like, her arms are covered in, like, the black chunky water from the burial and. When did she have time to cook the slop? Is it implying that they're eating the hitchhiker like I don't understand?  John  That's what I kind of thought it. But then I'm like, but they they don't show or save anything. They threw it all in the in the splashy acid. So I don't, I don't know. It was great though.  Josh  It it is great and it doesn't make any sense because we just saw him kiss and take a chump out of a heart after like dissecting someone and yanking on the guts and stuff. So why is he now, like sickened by? It doesn't make sense.  John  He is an aversion to sue. So now we're at we're at. Anna's bed side. And he's moping again. And you know, whenever whenever Frank's moping, you can count on Mama lips to come in and and calm him down. So she sits next to him and starts feeling him up. Basically, she's like sticking your hands up under his. V next sweater. And then she dips, trowel and is like digging in for the happy ending and saying things like. Iris knows how to take care of him, doesn't she? So she's yeah, she strokes him out of his sadness, I guess. And then I guess I'm assuming he ****** his pants and then had to go change his pants. But anyways, back at the Funeral Home, we're in a back office and it's ******* filthy. It's a place. Like, what is going on? He's got, like, a looks like a bookshelf. Behind him and on one of the shelves is a casket. What a cool guy. So where this guy shows up and it's like he's hired a Private Eye to appear. Without any pay, go, go, research and provide this mortician Frank's entire life story, and then what he does, the guy like whips his wallet. He's like, here you go. Good work now.  Josh  He he pays him like you pay a bell, man.  John  It gives him a tip. And then we see Frank, who, who's dressed up like marathon man. He's like jogging through town and then suddenly he's in the mountains. And I mean the setting is beautiful. And then yeah, oh, what do you know, he's just happens to be jogging behind some hot girl who looks like she's never run a step in her life. She's like, first of all, she's not sweating at all, and she she can't. I mean, she could barely run in a straight line. And then, wow, she had twisted her ankle, and he's gonna have to help her, you know? So he he. He wants her to wait. You know, cuz he's going to go to the to the pharmacy. And get some liniment but. Then he realizes it would just be easier to carry her to his house. Where he rubs white cream on her ankle and she asks him if he's a doctor. Wow, you're really.  Josh  Good at that.  John  It's like with he just put.  John  And he, he like, kisses her hand and stuff like it's obvious that he's he's, you know, he's down to clown. Because apparently the handy that he just. Andy, that lips gave him earlier wasn't enough, so he he goes somewhere in the house to get he's on a gauze run and he stops. Of course, cause he has to visit dead Anna for a second. I don't know if he's like to get it up or whatever. And then and then jangle the jogger with the ankle calls for him. Calls for him, so he hides Hannah real quick, like, flips the bedspread up over her. She's like, like, weighs like £80.00, so he can kind of hide her under a bedspread. And then he he wraps her ankle. And you know, it's getting all good and she's. Like, oh, wait until you finish wrapping the ankle. So then they get into the bed right next to Anna, where the the matching twin beds with velvety blankets, and they start getting all feely and Frank pulls the bedspread down so he can look at Anna and kind of touch her or whatever so he can get the full corpse ***** and the jogger sees her. And for some reason this is upset by this. I don't know why. Freaks the **** out. So Frank bites a hole in her neck, which kills her, and then he eats it.  Josh  Whatever, it's so good.  John  So he's in some sort of strange orgasmic.  Speaker 5  Daze. He's just.  John  Blood on him. And the lips walks in, of course, because she's always there at the key moment, takes the jogress and tosses her into. That dude has a ******* crematorium in his basement.  Josh  She she hadn't.  Josh  Thought about that at the after the first one, she was like, all right, look, I can't chop up another body.  John  That was too much work, I thought, chopping up a body was going to be no big deal. How silly of me to forget that you have a crematorium in your taxidermy station. So they just they just toss the jogger into the crematorium thing and, uh, fire it up and then she does this cool, like scrunching up thing like she's. Yeah, it's great I call. Oh, yeah, I called it the taxidermy torium. And then, yeah, so it's amazing. But anyways, lips now has suggested that. She just she just she suggests that Frank get rid of Anna because you know, because she wants all the attention basically, but also because the, you know, it's crazy. And the odds of keeping a weirdly preserved dead body in your bedroom is probably. Not a good idea so. She says it's for his safety and she's like.  John  Forget about her. She's dead.  John  And we're alive. But Frank's not having it. He's going to keep her in her own room. She's getting all dressed up because, you know, they're going to have guests or whatever. Then the cops show up and she immediately puts on her nursemaid. Get up with an apron again because she can't have guests. You know, with the police to know that you're having guests. I didn't understand that.  Josh  There was a lot of her walking back and forth in a room, taking a gown off, putting a gown back on. It was like.  John  I don't think.  John  The cops care. They're just looking for a missing jogger. So she's kind of, you know, they're they're asking a bunch of questions outside and frank. Answering their questions, but obviously being vague and then she's a little bit more kind of aggressive, like pushing back and then they're like, you know, well, we could get a we could get a warrant, but we would really like to search the place if we could. And she's like, sure come on in. So they they go straight to the taxidermy torium. They're like looking around and the guys like, oh, these are these are amazing. What is this? It's like some taxidermied animal I didn't even. Catch what it was.  Josh  It's like a bird or.  John  Something. Yeah, like a bird.  Josh  Or a squirrel like it was. Just one he's like ooh.  John  And she's like, ohh well here, let me wrap that for you so you can take it home for free.  John  She just puts a piece of paper.  Josh  Like ohh here. Yeah, you wouldn't wanna.  Josh  Touch that. That's so weird.  John  Oh my God. And then the cops are like, well, you know, I think I've. Seen enough and they leave.  Josh  And yeah, whatever, and and then.  John  That was so strange. And then we we cut to a dinner table. She's back in her her gown or dress or whatever the ****. There's all these weird people in that in like leader hose and and **** sitting around the table and and then there's this woman who has a full on mustache. Like just rocking the stash? Like where no one's going to mention this, OK, Italy. And they're like, EZ, what the fathers spread, that you got the and she she brings in this suckling pig or piglet. It's really small, I don't know. And they're all sitting there and they ask about Frank.  Josh  Know Liz Wizard the Frank Carini?  Josh  They're all drinking like they've got like these, these tiny little cordial cups full of cranberry juice. I assume they're there's even this one, like, whenever the pig comes out there like and