In the first episode of 2021, Barry-John speaks with one of the world's top criminologists, Christopher Berry-Dee.  Christopher specialises in serial homicide and has corresponded  with and sat face to face with some of the most evil serial killers to have walked the planet.

Christopher tell us what it is like to interview evil and the psychological warfare that takes place when speaking to these monsters when the stakes can be as high as solving a cold case and providing a family with much sought after closure they have been craving.

In this open discussion, we discuss monsters like Ted Bundy, Arthur Shawcross, John Wayne Gacy, Henry Lee Lucas and other predatory serial killers and what makes them tick.

This podcast is not for the faint at heart and listener discretion is advised.

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