GoalChat

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about giving with Noah Bleich, founder of The TeaBook; David Chiu, marketing and communications manager for The Braid; and Nicky Pitman, director of Shemesh Farms. The three talked about their work, the role of food in it, and what inspired their giving spirit. Noah, David, and Nicky also shared their thoughts on community in philanthropy, art in energy, and mission in everything.  Goals  - Noah: Get to know new people - Nicky: Be curious, ask what people need and see how you can best contribute - David: Start developing long term relationships with organizations Final Thoughts - David: Giving is about relationships - Nicky: Love big! - Noah: Thanksgiving is Thanks and Giving; be thankful that you have things to give Learn More About Noah Bleich: TheTeaBook.com David Chiu: The-Braid.org Nicky Pitman: ShemeshFarms.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about Leadership with Marisa Wheeling Ciesluk, MWC Leadership; Monique Daigneault, MD Consulting; and Jess Dewell, Managing Partner, Operations + Strategy, Red Direction. The panel shares their thoughts on what leadership is, qualities of good and bad leaders, ways to develop leadership skills, and more. As Marisa says, leadership is not a title, it's an action. The skills of leadership are applicable no matter what your role or business. What is Leadership? - Jess: Making decisions, whether they starts with your heart, gut, or brain - Monique: Being a healthy example - Marissa: A process of radical self-inquiry Goals  - Jess: Take 10 days - 2 5-day weeks - and pick something to notice about yourself/what challenges are you facing; find the patterns and see what solutions you can try to create a different outcome - Monique: Share a gap that you have with someone that you trust; it brings awareness and helps you figure out how to improve it - Marisa: Develop a pause practice. Create time for rest, even if it's only for a few minutes a day Final Thoughts - Monique: This conversation has been the definition of a supportive environment. Find your support system - Marisa: Leadership is a human experience - Jess: It's risky to do these things - leadership and self reflection takes courage and boldness - it's time to normalize these conversations Learn More About Marisa Wheeling Ciesluk: MWCLeadership.com Monique Daigneault: MDConsultingGlobal.com Jess Dewell: RedDirection.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about the power of dance with Jennifer Ballard, founder of Joy Scoutz and Disco Ball Designs; Missy Lawrence, CEO or TransformMaven LLC; and Jessie-Sierra Ross, author of Seasons Around the Table and founder of Straight to the Hips, Baby. Jennifer, Missy, and Jessie-Sierra revealed their earliest dance memories, their takes on the power of dance, and more. They also shared their dance mantras. Jessie-Sierra: Loosen up more, shake your booty; Jen: Dance a good turn daily; and Missy: Dance like Beyoncé is watching. Goals  - Jen: Find time to dance every day. It can be 2 minutes - Missy: Create a signature mantra or affirmation that includes dance - Jessie-Sierra: The next time you are at a place where there is dancing, start dancing, Final Thoughts - Jen: You can dance if you want to - Jessie-Sierra: Silence that voice that says you can't - Missy: You have permission to dance Learn More About Jennifer Ballard: DiscoBallDesigns.com Missy Lawence: TransformMaven.com Jessie-Sierra Ross: StraighttotheHipsBaby.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling has an uplifting, yet practical, conversation about Stress and Relationships with Angela Miller Barton of WellCoaches, the Original Pause Lady Kim Groshek, and Spiritual Mentor Terri Ann Heiman. The panel shares their takes on the topic, along with helpful tips for dealing with people and being good to yourself. Goals - Angela: Practice compassion you can buy; be realistic in your self-praise - Terri Ann: Take a moment for gratitude - Kim: When dealing with a stressful situation that involves someone else, commit to fostering open and honest communication, pause, and respond with empathy - Bonus Goal: Go outside; the earth is a wonderful healer Final Thoughts - Kim: Pause for 5 minutes every day - Terri Ann: Drop out of the mind and come into the heart - Angela: We are all living a human life So in this human life. Have compassion for yourself and the world around you, those around you, and that will make the journey all that much better Learn More About: Angela Miller Barton: WellcoachesSchool.com Kim Groshek: KimGroshek.com TerriAnnHeiman: TerriAnnHeiman.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's GoalChat, I discussed #advocacy with Howard Brodwin, Rich Holman, and Sandy Rosenthal. Howard is the founder of Sports and Social Change, Rich is the author of Killing You Softly: How Sugar is Killing Us, and Sandy is author of Words Whispered in Water: Why the Levees Broke in Hurricane Katrina. The panel shared their origin stories, as well as their takes on advocacy, including the process and the pros and cons. Goals - Sandy: Decide what your values are and pursue those - Rich: Get educated so you can educate - Howard: Be brutally honest with yourself about why you want to become an advocate Final Thoughts - Sandy: There is nothing to be afraid of. Don't let fear get in the way - Rich: Health is the most critical issue. Take charge of your health - Howard: As Nelson Mandela says, "Sport has the power change" Learn More About: Howard Brodwin: SportsandSocialChange.org Rich Holman: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-You-Softly-How-Sugar/dp/B0CJLLLTCZ Sandy Rosenthal: SandyRosenthal.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this epiosde of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about Creativity and Tech with author and screenwriter Rob Kutner, Deborah Pardes VP of Swell Audio, and Yael Swerdlow of Maestro Games. Rob, Deborah, and Yael give their takes on creativity and how it does and does not relate to tech. They also share their "why," along with tips for introducing more creativity into your life. Goals  - Deborah: Go to Swellcast.com and start a personal podcast. Find your why, and claiming and amplify your voice - Yael: Inspired by the books "Your Brain on Art" and "Awe." Gift yourself daily awe and also spend a couple minutes on the arts every day - Rob: Gift yourself an hour to play: try a new creative thing Final Thoughts - Yael: Everybody has the power within them to uplift - Rob: Everyone is creative - Deborah: Be true to yourself Learn About Rob Kutner: RobKutner.com Deborah Pardes: DeborahPardes.com Yael Swerdlow: MaestroGames.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about writing books with Scott Huver, author of Beverly Hills Noir; cozy, romance, fiction, and non-fiction writer Jessica Mehring; and Melody Owen of Author Nation.  Whether you are writing long-form or short-form, fiction or non, writing has benefits for the author, as well as the reader. The panel discusses what led them to writing books; their approaches to the art, craft and promotion of writing; and more.   Goals  - Scott: Make a list of the people in your network who can help you accomplish your book goals - Melody: Start one conversation every day. And follow up - Jessica: Commit to writing something small every day Final Thoughts - Melody: If you have a book in you, don't let it sit - Jessica: There is nothing wrong with perfectionism - work with it, don't let it stop you from writing - Scott: Find the yes! If you believe in what you are doing, talk to whomever you need to until you find the yes Learn More About Scott Huver: Instagram.com/thehuve Jessica Mehring: JessicaMehringAuthor.com Melody Owen: AuthorNationTube.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/Blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about Magic and Change with Emily Hawkins, LeaderSHIFT; Jonathan Pritchard, ZAVANT Enterprises; and Bob Woods, Social Sales Link. Magic leads to change and vice versa. Add faith and the ability to let go of what no longer serves you, and have a recipe for success. The trio shares their take on the topic, their own "aha" change moments, steps for moving forward, and more. Goals - Emily: Write down everything you want - Bob: Be present on LinkedIn. Start commenting on other people's content. Add value - Jonathan: Start a YouTube channel, stop keeping what you know a secret - Bonus from Deb: Schedule 15 minutes a day to do these items, work toward your goals and change Final Thoughts - Emily: Let go to let in - Bob: Stop talking about how you are going to help and just help - Jonathan: Not all change is an improvement, better is always different, different is rarely better. Be strategic Learn More About: Emily Hawkins: EmilyHawkins4u.com Jonathan Pritchard: ICanReadMinds.com Bob Woods: SocialSalesLink.com/library Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about First Impressions with Book Marketing Mentor's Judy Baker; Kate Paine, Standing Out Online; and Sandy Saburn, Gifted Travel Network. The panel discusses best practices for making a good first impression in person, as well as online. They also share how the second impression comes play, the "quirky facts" that help them stand out, and more. How to Make a Good First Impression - Sandy: Come with the right attitude - Kate: Put effort into how you appear - Judy: Be there to be helpful - Judy: Don't sell to me - Sandy: Don't talk down to me To Create a Strong First Impression Online - Kate: On LinkedIn, show your personality and make sure you use a professional photo that looks like you. Come across as a resource, not a resume: show who you are, what you do, and how you help. For the headline, include the keywords you want people to search and add a quirky fact - Sandy: Be different, get rid of the cookie cutter phrases - Judy: Be authentic without oversharing; don't photoshop your life Goals  - Judy: Always know your intention when you show up - Sandy: Give yourself permission to be authentic, check in with yourself - Kate: Google yourself and see what shows up. Use your linkedin to create a great first impression Final Thoughts - Sandy: You never know when and where you will meet amazing people - Judy: Tell your story - Kate: Know your slice of life story. What brought you where you are now? And use that to connect with others through the content you create Learn More About Judy Baker: BookMarketingMentor.com Kate Paine: StandingOutOnline.com Sandy Saburn: GiftedTravelNetwork.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about LinkedIn content with brand strategist Ivonne Ribeiro, chief coaching officer Stan Robinson, Jr., and LinkedIn whisperer Brynne Tillman. The trio offers insights on what and how to post, as well as tips for staying consistent with posting, using tech to your advantage, and more. Why Create LinkedIn Content - Stan: To position yourself as a resource - Ivonne: It's one place to remain on the radar of your ideal client and share who you are - Brynne: You have to earn the right to have the conversation with your ideal client, which you can do through sharing good social selling content Goals  - Brynne: Curate your own transcripts (take transcripts from your meetings, ask AI to "pull out YOUR NAME's content;" ask AI "create a blog post, do not research," ask AI "create 10 quotes from the blog post") - Ivonne: Create an inspirational content bank process - Stan: Record a video on your phone and send it to a friend Final Thoughts - Stan: Dive into LinkedIn - Ivonne: Follow up forever - Brynne: Don't post and ghost Learn More About: Ivonne Ribeiro: iBrandStrategist.com Stan Robinson, Jr: SocialSalesLink.com/Library Brynne Tillman: SocialSalesLink.com/Library Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling discusses living Beyond Type A with KeishaMarie Douglas, Veteran Wingwomen Community; AJ Lauer, Thriving Ibis Leadership Solutions; and Evelyn Pacitti, Measurable Wellness. KeishaMarie, AJ, and Evelyn share their relationship with perfection, what caused them to embrace imperfection, and more. What is Perfectionism? - Evelyn: The vision of what in your head vs what's real .. and the non-stop loop of trying to match them - KeishaMarie: Doing the same thing and trying to get different results - AJ: Having an idea of how you want something to go Goals - AJ: Put something out into the world that is not 100% polished and perfect! - KeishaMarie: Stop holding yourself back - Evelyn: Put doing something imperfect/uncomfortable on your todo list Final Thoughts - KeishaMarie: Enjoy the journey. Laugh as much as possible - Evelyn: There's more flexibility in life than you give it credit for - AJ: Strive for progress over perfection Learn More About: KeishaMarie Douglas: KeishaMarieOnline.com AJ Lauer: ThrivingIbis.com Evelyn Pacitti: MeasurableWellness.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling discusses The Freelance Life with Judy Gruen, Tyler Schmidt, and Keith Spiro. Judy is a freelance writer/columnist/book reviewer, whose books include Bylines and Blessings. Tyler Schmidt's company is Little Big Media; she also does work for FranklinCovey and Gray Miller Agency. Keith Spiro, Keith Spiro Media, is a writer and photographer, as well as business strategist and community builder. The trio talks about their experience and expertise in the freelance realm, including working for many bosses--not just one or two--and client/promo/project development. They also share their takes on boundaries (setting and keeping them) and balance. Goals - Judy: Give yourself permission to work on your passion project for small amounts of time every day - Keith: Say yes and be kind - Ty: Take the time to define your ideal client Final Thoughts - Judy: Look for the blessing in what you are doing; keep having that positive impact - Keith: Don't do it alone. Build your team! - Ty: Put your arms up on the rollercoaster of freelance life. Yes you can! Learn More About  Judy Gruen: JudyGruen.com Tyler Schmidt: LittleBigMediaMKE.com Keith Spiro: KeithSpiroMedia.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling has a fun conversation about cooking and tech with Jerome Amos, BFAM Cooking; Debbie Kennedy, The Food Coach Academy; and Faith Kramer, author of 52 Shabbats: Friday Night Dinners from a Global Jewish Kitchen. The trio shares their love of food, cooking backstories, plating tips, and more. Favorite Cooking Toy - Faith: Microwave for defrosting or reheating/pressure cooker, immersion blender - Jerome: Sous vide, smoker, SIS machine (whipper), vitamix - Debbie: Vitamix, cast iron pans What's on Their Foodie Bucket List - Jerome: Timpano pasta (referencing the movie "Big Night") - Debbie: Low country boil - Faith: Southern Indian food, Yemenite breads Goals - Debbie: Find a recipe you like but change it up; experiment with the flavors and make delicious mistakes - Faith: Take a chance on an exotic ingredient - Jerome: Eat local; when traveling, ask the person at the front desk where to eat and what foods the city is known for - Bonus from Jerome: Join a spice of the month club Final Thoughts - Faith: Every recipe tells a story, pay attention, it adds to the enjoyment - Debbie: Don't be afraid to learn how to cook - Jerome: Enjoy butter! Learn More About: Jerome Amos: YouTube.com/c/bfamcooking Debbie Kennedy: DrDebKennedy.com Faith Kramer: FaithKramer.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week's GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about #Reinventing with Howard Brown, Shining Brightly, Christopher Johnson, Calm Clear Media, and Jessie-Sierra Ross, Straight to the Hips, Baby. Howard reinvented himself after surviving stage 4 cancer twice; Christopher went from tech to running virtual events; and Jessie-Sierra reinvented herself from ballerina to food blogger to TV personality to cookbook author.  However you decide to reinvent yourself, it starts with the desire to change. Howard, Christopher, and Jessie-Sierra share their takes on the topic, their reinventing stories, and what's in the center of their Venn diagram, along with tips for soaring through your reinvention journey. Goals - Howard: Give yourself grace. Take an inventory of where you are at, and see where you want to go and don't want to go. - Jessie-Sierra: Give yourself the belief and courage to move forward, celebrate all wins, and build your new life one step at a time - Christopher: Play at the edge of your comfort zone Final Thoughts - Christopher: Find space to play in life as you work toward your goals - Jessie-Sierra: Think about your life in a series of "why nots" - Howard: Howard: Choose to shine brightly and be a force multiplier for positivity Learn About: Howard Brown: ShiningBrightly.com Christopher Johnson: CalmClearMedia.com Jessie-Sierra Ross: StraighttotheHipsBaby.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Trust is all about being real, relatable, and relevant, according to Larry Levine, Selling from the Heart. Larry, Barbara Drady of 360 Visibility, and Jim Fuhs of Fuhsion Marketing joined me for a lively, yet comprehensive #Goalchat on Trust. The trio talked about the evolution of trust, especially as it relates to sales. They also shared insights and tips about developing trust with others and yourself. #Goals - Jim: Record a 2 - 3 minute video of yourself telling what you do and upload it to LinkedIn - Barbara: Look at yourself in the mirror, and be honest: Do you think people will be able to trust you? If not, what do you need to change? - Larry: Ask yourself every day: What do I want to known for? Final Thoughts - Barbara: Make a splash! - Jim: Be real, relatable, and relevant for developing know, like, and trust - Larry: People would rather do business with those who sell from the heart Learn More About Barbara Drady: Visibility-360.com Jim Fuhs: FuhsionMarketing.com Larry Levine: SellingFromtheHeart.net Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Goalchat, host Debra Eckerling talks about fitness and fun with workout warrior Kevin Bailey, human performance expert Dr. Alexander Chriest, and holistic nutritionist Cat Dillon. Do you combine fitness and fun? Do you want to? The trio share their favorite - and least favorite - workout experiences, advice for incorporating fun into fitness, and more.  What Does Fitness Mean to You? Kevin: Being in a good place physically, mentally, and emotionally Alexander: Being open to the evolution Cat: Having the capacity to move through life with energy Goals Cat: Think about what physical activities you loved doing as a child. Use that as a jumping point for finding the fun. Then, join a community group for that type of exercise Kevin: Try out different types of exercise until you find one that gets you excited to work out Alexander: Give yourself permission to take the time for fitness; self care is important    Final Thoughts Cat: We put a lot of pressure on ourselves; give yourself grace. Alexander: Find a small thing you can do consistently for the rest of the year Kevin: Be kind to yourself, life happens, and keep moving forward Learn More About: Kevin Bailey: Instagram.com/kevinbailey9402 Alexander Chriest: Instagram.com/dralexanderchriesgt Cat Dillon: CatDillon.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Personal improvement goes hand-in-hand with professional success. On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling speaks with Tammy Alvarez, Kristen Coffield, and Mort Orman about Personal Improvement. Tammy helps high level professionals in Escaping the Career Trap, Kristen is founder of The Culinary Cure, and Dr. Mort helps people through his The Anger Cure. The three guests each address different elements of personal improvement - career, health, and emotions - and are passionate about helping people acknowledge, address, and conquer the things that hold them back. Tammy, Kristen, and Mort share their backstories, as well as their takes on the value of personal development, how to embrace challenge and change, and more.  How to Start Your Personal Development Journey - Tammy: Evaluate what lights you up and figure out how to do more of it - Dr, Mort: Make the decision to change. Decide, "I'm going for it and nothing is going to stop me" - Kristen: What you focus on expands. Throughout your journey, focus on the positive Goals - Kristen: Hydration is linked to everything. Take 1/2 your body weight and drink that in ounces of water over the course of the day. You'll notice a change - Tammy: Congrats. You are now the CEO or your career! Put on your CEO hat on and ask yourself, "If my career were a biz, what would I change?" And then do it. - Dr. Mort: Gamify your personal development goal. Come up with a plan and keep your word to work toward it by doing something small every day Final Thoughts - Dr Mort: As Tony Robbins says, unleash the power within - Kristen: Let go of the outcome. Focus on how you feel - Tammy: It's never too late to be who you might have been. Go after your goals, and have fun while doing it! Learn More About Tammy Alvarez: CareerWinnersCircle.com Kristen Coffield: TheCullinaryCure.com Dr. Mort Orman: TheAngerCure.org Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling had a fun conversation about Summer Activities with guests Jennifer Ballard, Holly Homer, and Babette Pepaj. Jennifer is Brand Partnerships Strategist at Motivating the Masses and Founder of Joy Scoutz, Holly is Founder of KidsActivities.com and Co-Founder of Pagewheel, and Babette Pepaj is Founder of Bakespace and Co-Founder of TastyUpdate.com. The trio not only appreciate the value of fun, they incorporate elements of it in their personal lives and businesses. Jennifer, Holly, and Babette shared their favorite solo and group activities, suggestions for fun summer adventures, ways to harness magical experiences, and more. Goals - Holly: Endorphin management; look at what makes you feel good and do more of that - Jennifer: Schedule a playdate with someone and have a new adventure - Babette: Smile more; it'll make you feel good and may also make someone's day Final Thoughts - Jennifer: Find fun in every day - Babette: Life is made up of little things; don't get caught up in the big, difficult stuff. Enjoy the fun, little things that matter - Holly: Keep fun photos on your phone; they are great reminders of good times Learn More About: Jennifer Ballard: Facebook.com/groups/joyscoutz Holly Homer: KidsActivities.com Babette Pepaj: BakeSpace.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The summer is the perfect time for reconnecting with friends, loved ones, peers, and colleagues. On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling discusses reconnecting with Jack Gelley, Senior Marketing Strategist, iHeartMedia; Judy Herman, Relationship Wellness; and Robbie Samuels, Business and Book Launch Strategist. Jack, Judy, and Robbie talked about the benefits of connecting and reconnecting, as well as best practices for staying in touch. They also shared some great reconnecting anecdotes. Goals - Robbie: Wake up your network. Before launching your next offer, look in your existing network to find the champions/research/resources for your next offer - Robbie's Bonus Goal: If you are feeling stuck, do something nice for 5 people - Judy: Make sure you take care of yourself; plan a trip/retreat to replenish your spirit - Jack: Be intentionally more vulnerable. It builds trust Final Thoughts - Judy: You are worth it - Jack: It's just as easy to make stuff up good in your mind than bad stuff; focus on the good. - Robbie: You already met 80% of the people you need to know to be successful. Spend 80 % of your networking time reconnecting and the other 20% meeting new people. Learn More About Jack Gelley: iHeartMedia.com Judy K Herman: JudyCounselor.com Robbie Samuels: RobbieSamuels.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy Mid Year 2024! On this episode of GoalChat, Joey Held, Dorien Morin-van Dam, and Jamie Pachino join host Debra Eckerling to celebrate the mid-point of 2024! Joey is a writer and voiceover artist, Dorien is a social media strategist, and Jamie is a screenwriter and playwright. The trio shared their personal and professional wins - and challenges - from the first part of the year, as well as their goals for 2024, part 2! Joey, Dorien, and Jamie also talk about their projects, how they balance the different aspects of their lives, and the things that keep them joyful outside of - and including - work. It was a fun conversation, filled with inspiration, motivation, and solid advice. Goals - Dorien: Reconnect with nature. There's nothing like disconnecting from devices and enjoying the things around you - Joey: Try the Bowflex 5-minute stretch and the Just Dance video - Jamie: Seek out a book or movie that's the opposite of what you are working on, and see how that helps get your creative juices flowing for your projects Final Thoughts - Dorien: Be sure your goals are your own - Jamie: Set big goals. And understand the small parts that you need to work on to reach your big goals ... and do them! - Joey: Worry is like a rocking chair; it gives you something to do but it gets you nowhere! Learn More About Joey Held: JoeyHeld.com Dorien Morin-van Dam: MoreInMedia.com Jamie Pachino: JamiePachino.com Debra Eckerling: TheDEBMethod.com/blog Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices