23. Is There One Signified? Wine vs. "Liquid"

Distinctive Christianity

May 29 2023 • 1 hr 25 mins

In this episode, Brendon and Skyler discuss the twenty-third lesson in the LDS Come, Follow Me sunday school manual. This week (May 29-Jun 4) is titled "In Remembrance" and covers Matthew 26, Mark 14, and John 13.

We invite you to worship with us on any Sunday - either at First Baptist Church of Provo or Christ Presbyterian Church in Magna. We welcome visitors!


CORRECTION: Dante's The Divine Comedy has three major sections called canticles - Inferno, Purgatory, and Paradise. These are made up of, respectively, 34, 33, and 33 cantos. The best English translation is by Anthony Esolen (also here). Dante started writing c. 1306 - and finished it shortly before his death in September 1321, which would be around 700 years ago (that is, to be exact, 702 years), not 800 years ago.

Also, Skyler misstated a point toward the end. He fears that the gap between the views of John Calvin and Thomas Aquinas is actually less that either of their views are to most modern (at least, American) Christians today in modern times.


A World on the Wing by Scott Weidensaul

The Temple by George Herbert


Sources:

D&C 20; D&C 89; 3 Ne 18; Moroni 4; Moroni 5

Sunday School Manual: John 13, "The Sacrament"

Gospel Principles: The Sacrament; Sacrament Prayers

"The Living Bread" (Christofferson)

"This Do In Remembrance of Me" (Jeffrey Holland; notice: here they connect the white shirts that the priesthood holders wear to the sacred clothing of the temple.)

"Sacrament Meeting and the Sacrament" (Dallin Oaks); "the most important meeting of the church"...??... except for all the meetings so sacred they are secret, maybe?)

Joseph F. Smith: JD 15.324-328


Resources:

The Trinity: An Introduction by Scott Swain

God Has Spoken; The Attributes of God: An Introduction by Gerald Bray

The Person of Christ: An Introduction by Stephen Wellum

Heresies: The Image of Christ in the Mirror of Heresy and Orthodoxy by Harold O.J. Brown

Christianity and Liberalism by J. Gresham Machen


Matthew (The Expositor's Bible Commentary) by D.A. Carson

Simply Put (and here), Credo, WHI, and Reformed Forum

Desiring God by John Piper

The Religious Affections by Jonathan Edwards

The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism and the Road to Sexual Revolution by Carl Trueman

Jacques Derrida by Christopher Watkin (also here)


Dialogue on the Two Natures In Christ by Peter Martyr Vermigli

Transubstantiation: Theology, History, and Christian Unity by Brett Salkeld

Calvin and the Anabaptist Radicals by William Balke

Calvin's Letter to Cardinal Sadoleto

Zwingli: God's Armed Prophet by Bruce Gordon

The Flesh of the Word by K.J. Drake

Thanksgiving (NSBT) by David Pao

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