119: Ellen DeGeneres Comes Out; Or, Yep, She’s Gay!

This Was A Thing: The Retro Podcast

11-06-2024 • 58 mins

When it comes to LGBTQ trailblazers, Ellen DeGeneres is top of that list. Her decision to come out both as a public figure and her television persona made waves across the country and her daytime talk show helped normalize the image of a gay host on public airwaves. Sadly (and unsurprisingly given the slow pace of progress) there was blowback when Ellen made her momentous decision - conservatives railed against a gay television character and its impact on “family values.” But what maybe was a surprise is that Ellen also got blowback from the LGBTQ+ community - as well as from many fans of the very show where she broke ground.

Rob teaches Ray and Daniel about Ellen’s early years as a standup comedian, including her breakout appearance on Carson; her casting in the starring role on the sitcom initially titled These Friends Of Mine; the key role that Oprah Winfrey played in Ellen’s story both in real life and on screen; how ABC supported DeGeneres’s decision to come out and wrote an entire season leading up to that event; and why, after Ellen’s unprecedented decision, many progressive critics felt that her television show actually suffered for it.

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TEAM

Ray Hebel

Robert W. Schneider

Mark Schroeder

Billy Recce

Daniel Schwartzberg

Natalie DeSavia

EPISODE CLIPS

“The Puppy Episode” Clip

Ellen Degeneres Makes Her First Appearance on Carson’s Tonight Show

“These Friends of Mine” Promo

ADDITIONAL MUSIC & SOUND EFFECTS

“This Was A Thing” Theme Songs composed by Billy Recce

“Happy Bee”

• Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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