HippCast

In today's show, we're delighted to hear from Hugo Max, musician, artist and filmmaker, ahead of his HippFest debut as part of our 2024 Taste of Silents season! Amongst various interdisciplinary achievements, Hugo performs live improvised accompaniment to silent films on solo viola, and has played chamber music at prestigious venues including the Barbican, Royal Festival Hall, and St Martin in the Fields. He has been concertmaster of the Oxford University Philharmonic Orchestra and the Oxford Baroque Players and is a lecturer on improvisation and multidisciplinary practice at the Royal Birmingham Conservatoire. Hugo travels to Bo'ness to join us at the Hippodrome on Saturday the 2nd of November to accompany the surreal 1922 cine fable Nosferatu, the first ever screen adaptation of Bram Stoker's Dracula. A quintessential example of German expressionist cinema, and one of the most famous of all silent movies, F. W. Murnau's Nosferatu continues to haunt audiences today with the indisputable power of its images. Digital Content Manager Christina Webber chats to Hugo about his silent film journey, his process when accompanying silent cinema, and the magic of surviving 1910s cinema spaces. Relevant links: A full transcript of this episode is available via the HippFest Blog.More about Hugo Max.More info about the upcoming Nosferatu (1922) screening.

As September comes to a close, students across the UK return to schools or higher education. To mark the start of a new academic year, we spoke to Dr. Paul Sellors, Lecturer in Film Theory, History and Criticism at Edinburgh Napier University and Programme Leader of the Film BA (Hons). HippCast Episode 18 considers what film students today can learn from early cinema: stylistically, contextually, and as a way to reconsider contemporary questions. The conversation touches on the various lenses through which we watch, study and try to understand early film including the intersection between early films and politics, public utilities and consumer behaviours; considers ideas of film ownership and authorship; compares early film viewing with scrolling TikTok feeds; and tackles perhaps the biggest and most challenging question of them all: naming a favourite silent film. We hope you enjoy this 'Back to School' episode and share it with any students you know heading off to start their journey in film education. As always, you can find a full transcript and a number of links to relevant publications cited throughout the episode via the HippFest blog. Happy listening!

In today's show we hear about a very special cinema loved by its local community, Highlands Cinemas - not to be confused with the Highland Cinema in the Highlands of Scotland on Fort William High Street - this picture palace is in the Halliburton Highlands in Ontario, Canada. Digital Content Manager Christina Webber chats to the cinema's owner Keith Stata during the height of their busiest season. Our cinemas are three and a half thousand miles apart, but both celebrate that hallowed feeling invoked by a beautiful cinema space, the tangibility and materiality of our first cinema experiences, the curtains sweeping majestically in front of the screen, the carpets, the lights, the buttery smell of popcorn... All of these sensations are bound up with the time we first fell in love with the movies. Keith set about building the Highland Cinema in his backyard in 1975, and since then it has grown and grown, now housing five theatres and a museum featuring cinema related photographs, memorabilia, and an impressive vintage projector collection. They may not show silent movies, but Laurel and Hardy do make a cameo on the cinema signage! (See above). Earlier this year, Keith featured as the subject of a feature length documentary reflecting on his life's work, The Movie Man. Keith talks about his time in front of the camera, and paints an evocative picture of cinema going in the forests of Ontario - cats and bear included. What did a trip to the movies look like during his childhood? How to make the perfect iced cappuccino? And what does he think the future of cinema-going looks like? All will be discussed, and more. Relevant links: A full English transcript of this show can be found here: https://hippfest.wordpress.com/2024/08/31/hippcast-episode-17/ More info about Highlands Cinemas: https://www.highlandscinemas.com/The Cinemas' 58 resident cats: https://www.highlandscinemas.com/cats/THE MOVIE MAN (2024): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21916284/

In today's episode, Digital Content Manager Christina Webber talks to Eva Hielscher and Oliver Hanley, Artistic Co-Directors of Bonn Stummfilmtage, with the 40th anniversary edition just a couple of weeks away! Eva Hielscher and Oliver Hanley have been working in research, archiving and curatorial mediation of audiovisual cultural heritage at home and abroad since 2008. Their different but complementary experiences span a diverse spectrum, ranging from film restoration and the publication of DVD or online editions to curating film-related exhibitions and film series for museums, cinemas and international film festivals. This will be their fourth year as Artistic Co-Directors. The discussion in this month's release paints a vivid picture of the 1000-strong open air silent film 'concerts' that fill eleven warm August nights. Conversation meanders from the audience to favourite moments and challenges thus far, to the upcoming 2024 programme, international reach of online presentation and dreams for the future. We hope, like us, that this fuels your interest in the Bonn International Silent Film Festival, and hope to one day see you there. If you can't make it along this year in person, the 2024 programme features many titles available to watch on demand for 48 hours, beginning 48 hours after the film's live presentation. A copy of the streaming schedule is included alongside the full show transcript on the HippFest blog. Further relevant Festival links: The Internationale Bonner Stummfilmtage websiteStream the 2024 programme hereFollow on FacebookFollow on Instagram

Episode 15 celebrates an important June date in the Bo'ness calendar, the Bo'ness Fair. Visitors to HippFest will remember that the Bo'ness Fair Queen, who is crowned each year at the fair has joined us on several occasions at our HippFest Closing Night Gala to award prizes. The Bo'ness Children's Fair Festival, to give it its official name, was founded in 1897 and continues to be a major cultural event in Scotland, beloved by Bonessians at home, and further afield. Louis Dixon, the original proprietor of the Hippodrome, produced local topicals for the cinema, making films documenting the fair from as early as 1912 right through to his death in 1960. To get in the spirit of the fair, and of Louis Dixon himself, We thought it would be fitting to share with you an adapted version of the walking tour led by local historian and archaeologist Geoff Bailey about the Hippodrome architect Matthew Steele. Architect of the Hippodrome (1911), Matthew Steele has a lasting legacy in the streets of Bo’ness. His practice lasted from 1905-37 and in that time he created many private homes and public buildings in the town, in the Arts and Crafts, and later art deco moderne style. Born in Bo’ness and trained in Edinburgh and Glasgow, Steele worked mainly in Bo’ness throughout his life and his designs are often very recognisable. Adapted from our online video tour released as part of HippFest 2021, this audio production hosted by Geoff Bailey will guide youthrough Bo’ness to discover the buildings created by this influential architect. So spend the afternoon in Bo'ness strolling from one building to the other as you listen along; or if you're tuning in from overseas and are curious about a building, you can do the exact same using Google Maps. Happy Fair Day to all who celebrate! Learn more about Bo'ness Children's Fair Festival: https://www.thefairday.com/ A full English transcript of this episode is available to read if preferred here: https://hippfest.wordpress.com/2024/06/28/hippcast-episode-15/ See the approximate locations of each point of the tour below: 00:03:57 | Hippodrome Cinema (10 Hope Street Bo'ness EH51 0AA)00:08:07 | South Street (11 South St, Bo'ness EH51 0EA)00:09:41 | Corvi's and the old Station Hotel (5-7 Seaview Place, Bo'ness EH51 0AJ)00:12:37 | The Star Cinema (17 Corbiehall, Bo'ness, EH51 0AW)00:16:00 | 'Coffin Close' (63 Corbiehall, Bo'ness EH51 0AX)00:17:59 | 'St Mary's Buildings' (195 Corbiehall, Bo'ness EH51 OAX)00:19:26 | Seaforth (43 Linlithgow Road, Bo'ness, EH51 0DW)00:21:28 | Matt Steele's cottages (Dean Road, Bo'ness, EH51 9BH)00:22:42 | The 'Venetian Houses' (Cadzow Cres, Bo'ness EH51 9AY)00:23:45 | Duchess Nina Nurses' Home (Where Cadzow Crescent and Cadzow Lane connect, Bo'ness, EH51 9AY)00:25:29 | Matt Steele's bungalows (Cadzow Crescent, Bo'ness, EH51 9AZ)00:26:11 | Masonic Hall (Stewart Avenue, Bo'ness, EH51 9NJ)00:28:03 | Commission Street flats (Main St, Bo'ness EH51 9NG)00:29:29 | Matty Steele Building (South St, Bo'ness EH51 9NF)

In Episode 14, Digital Content Manager Christina Webber speaks to three first-time HippFest attendees about their experience at Scotland's first and only Festival of silent cinema and live music. Hear a collection of insights on this year's programme from Festival Supporter Pass Holder Uliana Ischenko-Iten, and our two Young Scot Reward Pass Holders Alanna Steele and Eve Jeffreys. All three share a surprise that the screenings were so busy, an appreciation of our Platform Reels screening of The Flying Scotsman on the Bo'ness and Kinneil Railway, plus mentions of The Organist at St. Vitus Cathedral, and our closing night feature The Wind. Opinions on the post-screening entertainment at our Friday Night Gala differ, and a warm appreciation for Hippodrome Cinema shines through from everyone reflecting on their time in Bo'ness. Save the date! HippFest will return next year from the 19-23 March 2025. We hope to see you then. You can access a full transcript of this episode here.

It's the annual 'programme picks' episode - a listener favourite! - and with only one week to go, what better time to have another look over the line-up? We hear from Festival Director Alison Strauss who urges audiences to check out The Rugged Island: A Shetland Lyric (1933) either in-person or via live-stream, plus squeezes in every Frances Marion title under the guise of one: Just Around the Corner (1921), available to view either in-person or via live-stream; Natalie Allison (Festival Producer) who is proud to present a Friday Night Gala screening of Mantrap (1926), and recommends audiences check out New Found Sound; Nell Cardozo (HippFest Development & Engagement Officer) who was blown away by the contemporary resonance of The Norrtull Gang (1923), and points audiences towards the free Pen-to-Picture exhibition at Bo'ness Library; Paul Eames (Falkirk Council Team Leader for Cultural Services) who is looking forward to re-living a memorable first viewing of The Wind (1928), seconds a need for audiences to see New Found Sound, and also recommends Queen of Sports (1934); Lesley O'Hare (Falkirk Council Cultural Services Manager) who jointly anticipates the exploits of mischievous children in both Adventures of Half a Ruble (1929) and Oliver Twist (1922); and finally Marketing Manager Abbie Dobson, whose first choice is Jenny Hammerton's Cooking with Joan Crawford workshop, followed by the gothic architecture and cinematography of The Organist at St Vitus Cathedral (1929). You can check out the full programme and everything else you need to know ahead of HippFest 2024 here: https://www.hippodromecinema.co.uk/silent-film-festival/

Today's episode is centred around the upcoming HippFest 2024 opening night on Wednesday 20th March, The Rugged Island: A Shetland Lyric. Directed by Jenny Gilbertson, nee Jenny Brown. HippFest is proud to present this extraordinary film with the world premiere of our new music commission created by award winning multi instrumentalist and composer from Fair Isle, Inge Thomson, collaborating with another Shetland born musician, Catriona Macdonald, who is considered to be one of the world's leading traditional fiddle players. Digital Content Manager Christina chats to both musicians about their upcoming collaboration, and conversation meanders from discussing Jenny Gilbertson's sensitivity when film-making, to the incredible skill of the Shetland fishermen and crofters who turned their hand to acting in the 1933 film, to particular sounds that viewers can expect during the performance (Shetlanders make note - the Unst Bridal March will feature), and the joy of this unique musical collaboration. Sit back, relax, and enjoy, ahead of our second pre-Festival presentation premiering on Friday 23 February, which will dig a little deeper into the extraordinary life and career of Jenny Gilbertson... Relevant links An English transcript of this episode is available hereMore about Inge Thomson⁠⁠More about Catriona Macdonald⁠ Tickets for the in-person screening of The Rugged Island: A Shetland LyricTickets for the online live-stream of The Rugged Island: A Shetland LyricTickets for the online premiere of Jenny Gilbertson: 'A Real Illuminator'

In Episode 11 we mark one full calendar year since starting the show by tantalising you with a bit of background about some of our events from the 2024 Festival Programme, revealing both an illustrated talk and an exciting hands-on workshop that will both be part of our exciting line-up. So in the first revelation of 2024 ... (drum roll) ... we are delighted to welcome upcoming HippFest 2024 guest, Jenny Hammerton! Jenny is the wonderful woman behind Silver Screen Suppers: the wonderful world of film star dining and drinking, a blog documenting the dishes of Hollywood icons from the silent era (and beyond). If you want to try your hand at concocting Lilian Gish's lemon pie, or trying Rudolph Valentino's 'secret spaghetti sauce', head over to Silver Screen Suppers and browse the 8000+ tried and tested recipes which await. In today's episode Digital Content Manager Christina Webber, a self proclaimed highly food-motivated individual, chats to Jenny about the origins of Silver Screen Suppers, some of the standout successes and failures Jenny has sampled along the way, the bizarre and delightful world of Eve's Film Review, Joan Crawford's aversion to bar stalls and her passion for candlelit dinners, and the ultimate conclusion that TikTok is the contemporary consumer's Cinemagazine of today. The full 2024 programme will be released on Tuesday 6 February, and tickets for both events will be bookable then. Jenny is also offering Festival Pass Holders an exclusive discount on books purchased directly from her store, details of which will be sent out in the exclusive PassHolder ahead of programme release - so if you're keen to grab a Pass early, click here whilst there's still some left! For now, though supper's served! We hope you enjoy the episode. Various relevant URLS A full episode transcript is available here: https://hippfest.wordpress.com/2024/01/31/hippcast-episode-11/Silver Screen Suppers: https://www.silverscreensuppers.com/aboutCooking with Joan Crawford: https://www.silverscreensuppers.com/joan-crawford-cookbookHippFest Festival Passes: https://www.hippodromecinema.co.uk/ticket-subscription/

In today's episode we hear from Gregg McNeill of ⁠Darkbox Images⁠, discussing the tangibility of analogue processes and why wet plate collodion (a Victorian photographic technology) endures to this day. Gregg lives and works in Larbert as a photographer and film-maker, employing both digital and analogue photographic processes to create beautiful and unique images. We are fortunate enough to be hosting Gregg at HippFest 2024, where we know our audiences will savour the opportunity to sit for a unique portrait to take home. Excitingly, Gregg is offering a special perk for Festival Pass Holders, who will receive a complimentary debossed cabinet card to display their portrait in style!  In conversation with Digital Content Manager (and podcast wrangler) Christina - who incidentally, is also an analogue photographer - Gregg discusses the fundamentally physical process of shooting 16mm film, how lens-based technology has affected how we see and tell stories, the beauty of the collodion process, and the value of physical photographic ephemera.   Relevant links: Corresponding blog post and show transcript: https://www.hippfest.wordpress.com Support Gregg via his Patreon account: https://www.patreon.com/DarkboxImagesCheck out Darkbox Images: https://www.darkboximages.com/Book a HippFest 2024 Festival Pass: https://www.hippodromecinema.co.uk/ticket-subscription/More on Frederick Scott Archer, inventor of the collodion process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Scott_Archer

In today's release we are delighted to share a conversation that took place earlier this month at the University of Edinburgh, hosted by Jane Sillars, Programme Director of the Masters in Film, Exhibition and Culture, along with Lizelle Bisschoff, who runs the Film Curation Masters at the University of Glasgow. The conversation featured the participation of Lisa Hoen, Director of the Tromsø International Film Festival (TIFF), who made a pit stop in Edinburgh on her way from Norway to the Reykjavik International Film Festival. The event and the following dialogue grew out of a research visit to TIFF's Silent Film Days, undertaken by HippFest Director Alison Strauss and Nell Cardozo, HippFest Development and Engagement Officer, in April 2023. In the discussion, you'll hear how HippFest and TIFF's Silent Film Days are carving out a space for silent film with live music in contemporary cinema programming, and about some of the considerations of film curation in this specialised area. Lisa's experiences programming art house and archive film in the Arctic Circle are invaluable, and we are grateful to be able to share this insightful conversation. Expect consideration of some of the challenges to silent film programming, alongside wider topics such as the crucial importance of cinemas as social spaces, and the transformative power of live music with silent cinema. We hope you enjoy! Relevant links: Read the show transcript in full hereRead Alison's account of the trip to TIFF from earlier this yearMore about Tromsø International Film Festival (TIFF)More about TIFF's Silent Film DaysMore about Jo Reid's The Freedom Machine

In today’s episode, released in celebration of Silent Movie Day, we share a fascinating conversation on the final title in the season SALOME (1922), between HippFest podcast-wrangler Christina Webber and members of archive activist film collective Invisible Women: Rachel Pronger, Camilla Baier and Lauren Clarke. Invisible Women are an international collective who seek out and champion the work of women and filmmakers with marginalised identities who have been overlooked, un-credited or left out of the history of cinema. By drawing attention to these forgotten stories, they aim to reinsert female voices into the story of film. And in today’s release this is certainly the case! The conversation covers the visual splendour of the film, its oddness, sexiness, and humour, its contemporary resurgence and queer and feminist reclamation, but also paints a vivid picture of the scene in Hollywood at this time, and the cast and crew behind the movie. Alleged to be an entirely queer cast, SALOME (1922) is a perfect example of the subversive networks that were able to operate at the start of the 1920s, and how despite being overlooked in film history, women like Alla Nazimova and Natacha Rambova achieved incredible success. We hope you enjoy - as always there is a full episode transcript available here. Relevant links: More about the HippFest Taste of Silents seasonBook to watch SALOME (1922) in-person at the Hippodrome (Bo'ness)Book to watch SALOME (1922) via online live-stream (available for 48 hours)Find out more about the work of Invisible Women and join the mailing list

Episode 7 of the Hippodrome Silent Film Festival Podcast is dedicated to our touring HippFest 2022 Commission Journey to the Isles: Marjory Kennedy-Fraser, which just last week travelled to Brittany to open Le Festival International du Film Insulaire du Groix, and which will travel again for another outing at the University of Glasgow Advanced Research Centre in November! The full performance offers a mesmerizing glimpse into the landscapes, folktales, and songs that inspired Marjory Kennedy-Fraser, one of Scotland's great early collectors of traditional arts, featuring two of Kennedy-Fraser's own films preserved by the National Library of Scotland Moving Image Archive. Joining audiences on this journey to the isles are acclaimed live performer, multi instrumentalist and one of Scotland's leading storytellers, Marion Kenny with award winning musician, singer and songwriter, Mairi Campbell. Both artists co-created a new score, weaving together words, music and song alongside Kennedy-Fraser's enchanting films. But for those unable to attend, waiting to watch, or anyone listening in curious to hear more about Marjory Kennedy-Fraser's incredible story, we have adapted a live recording of the show from Eden Court Highlands Cinema in Inverness from October 2022 into this audio-only podcast for your listening pleasure. Researched, developed and performed by Marion Kenny, the story of Marjory Kennedy-Fraser is full of adventurous twists and turns and will paint a vivid picture of what life was like as a song collector in the early 20th century... We hope you enjoy tuning in. More about HippFest's touring commissions Book to attend the CinemARC screening (Glasgow) Nov 16th Marjory Kennedy-Fraser's films at the National Library of Scotland Moving Image Archive More about Marion Kenny More about Mairi Campbell

This month's episode is all about the legendary Harold Lloyd title SAFETY LAST (1923), screening as part of the upcoming Edinburgh International Film Festival in collaboration with HippFest, and featuring live accompaniment from Festival favourite Mike Nolan. Social Media Officer and Online Coordinator Christina Webber speaks to Tamara Van Strijthem (Executive Producer for the EIFF) about this year's programme, and asks Mike Nolan about his love for silent cinema, plus the process involved when approaching a silent movie. There is of course much discussion on Harold Lloyd, other EIFF highlights to check out, and even a story beginning 'one dark and stormy night...'. Enjoy! Browse the full EIFF programme hereBook tickets to see SAFETY LAST (1923) ft. live accompaniment from Mike NolanOr, read the show transcript in full via the HippFest blog

This month's release re-visits a conversation from 2022 between Dodge Brothers Mark Kermode and Mike Hammond, plus honourary Dodge (and HippFest favourite) Neil Brand. Some of the topics covered throughout the conversation include the particular nature of silent film accompaniment, ways to approach working collaboratively (described here as 'mind meld'), as well as ways the audience can influence the musicians, and some anecdotes from along the way. As always, you can read a full show transcript here (including some photos from the eventual CITY GIRL performance) and with this episode, you can also watch a full event recording which we added to our HippFest at Home YouTube playlist, if you would rather watch the speakers as they converse. We hope you enjoy listening, and will be back next month with more treats for your ears!

May's episode 'All Faces are Masks' is an exploration of silent cinema's portrayal of visibly different characters led by Changing Faces campaigner Dr Chris Heppell and filmmaker David Cairns. Changing Faces is a charity dedicated to providing support and promoting respect for everyone with a visible difference, and the week of this release (15th - 19th May 2023) is Face Equality Week. Face Equality Week aims to raise awareness about the prejudice experienced by those with a visible difference. Underpinning 2023's event is the celebration of Changing Faces' ambassadors and campaigners proudly being the role models they want to see more of, and saying: "This is me". You can watch and share the campaign video, donate, or sign up for email updates in order to support the important work that Changing Faces are doing. Many thanks to Dr Chris Heppell and David Cairns for presenting such a fascinating event at HippFest 2023. If you would prefer to read rather than listen, you can access a full English transcript here.

In HippCast Episode 3 we hear from young voices on old cinema. Bringing fresh perspectives and new relevance to archive film is one of the many pleasures of programming a silent film festival, and involving new audiences and younger people in this wonderful world has been at the festival's heart since HippFest began. This episode features a short excerpt from the live Q&A which concluded our recent presentation of New Found Sound at HippFest 2023 - with terrific performances by Megan Marshall, Chloe Gibb, Erin Richards and Anya McCheyne, as well as from the Falkirk Junior and Senior Trad Bands - plus short interviews with Jenny Alexander (HippFest Advisory Panel) and Sara Prentice (Young Scot Reward Winner) inviting some of our young audience members to share their thoughts on this year's programme. If you would prefer, there is a full Episode Transcript available here.

In Episode 2 of the Hippodrome Silent Film Festival Podcast (HippCast for short) members of the team at Falkirk Council discuss their personal highlights from this year's programme, with a little bit of extra chat about the magic of silent cinema. Hear from Festival Director Alison Strauss; Online Coordinator, Social Media Officer and 'podcast operator' Christina Webber; Nell Cardozo, Development & Engagement Officer; Paul Eames, Team Leader (Arts), Falkirk Council; Marketing Manager Abbie Dobson; Independent Cinema Office FEDS Trainee James Mennie; and Natalie Allison, Festival Producer. Interested in an event mentioned in this episode? Browse and book tickets. If you would prefer to read this conversation, a full transcript  is available here.

In Episode 1 of the HippFest Podcast (or HippCast for short), we are delighted to share with you a lively and fascinating talk by Donald Smith, originally presented in March 2022, ahead of our Festival Opening Night screening of The Loves of Mary, Queen of Scots (1923). 'The Loves of Mary' was a real highlight of the festival, the world premiere of a new restoration of an extremely rare film presented with live improvised piano, plus the famous Scottish storyteller, Andy Cannon taking the role of our very own Film Explainer or 'McBenshi'. This memorable screening event was made even richer by Donald's talk, which set the scene perfectly for this near-hundred-year-old costume drama. Donald Smith is an author, storyteller and director of the Scottish International Storytelling Festival since 1989. His many publications include Storytelling Scotland, A Pilgrim Guide to Scotland, Wee Folk Tales: in Scots and Folk Tales From The Garden. Donald has also staged over a hundred plays and was a moving force behind the Scottish Storytelling Center and a National Theatre for Scotland.  If you would prefer, there is a full Episode Transcript available here. Links to resources mentioned in this episode are below: The Execution of Mary Queen of Scots (1895) - courtesy of The National Library of Scotland's Moving Image ArchiveThe Loves of Mary, Queen of Scots (1923) programme notes - by commissioned for the Hippodrome Silent Film Festival 2022The Ballad of the Five Marys - written by Donald Smith, Luath PressArchive Film Agency on YouTubeCelluloid Tapestry on YouTube

Greetings, silent film fans! We are delighted to release Episode 0 of our new podcast series, the Hippodrome Silent Film Festival Podcast - or HippCast for short. Intended as a brief audio primer, this preview episode is an opportunity to introduce online audiences to the unique HippFest experience.  To do so we have assembled a collection of voices, all sharing their impressions of the Festival. The Hippodrome Silent Film Festival (HippFest) is Scotland's first and only festival of silent film with live music. This brand new podcast features excerpts from a host of HippFest activity: Q+As with performers, interviews with archivists, and other insightful, cross-cultural conversations about archive cinema. We hope you enjoy tuning in! Many thanks to David Barras (Strange Boat) for recording the interviews with Neil Brand, Mark Kermode and Dr Mike Hammond. These conversations were all recorded between rehearsals at HippFest 2022. Special thanks also to First Impressions: Thinking Aloud About Film, who not only dedicated an episode to HippFest earlier in the year, but who have also allowed us to use an excerpt from this conversation as part of our show. Happy listening! If you would prefer, a full transcript of this episode is available here.