In this podcast episode, Nick Scott chats with Mayor Kate Rogers, former Managing Director of the NB Social Policy Research Network about her experience working with the organization. Kate reflects on the founding of the organization and the importance of building personal relationships to its success. She discusses how the network could have had even greater impact had it been more fully utilized and supported. Kate also shares her memories of former MP Andy Scott, who was instrumental in the creation of NBSPRN. She describes him as a genuine and giving person, always eager to learn and open to having his mind changed. This conversation is a trip down memory lane for Kate and a great insight into the importance of research networks and personal relationships in driving social policy change.