Episode 197 is Part 2 of a two-parter recorded down in Marathon, Texas at the Marathon Songwriters Festival. This Part is conversations about West Texas and songs with Josh Grider and Kelley Mickwee. Part 1 was with Courtney Patton, Walt Wilkins, and Drew Kennedy.

This episode's presenting partner is Desert Door Texas Sotol, The Blue Light Live, andCharlie Stout Photography.

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