Rock 'n' Roll Rabbit Hole

Kevin Gibson/Butch Bays

Rock 'N' Roll Rabbit Hole, with hosts Butch Bays and Kevin Gibson, does deep dives into classic songs, one-hit wonders, forgotten tunes -- pretty much any song or single might get into our cross-hairs. Have a suggestion? Hit us up. read less
MusicMusic
Music CommentaryMusic Commentary
Music HistoryMusic History

Episodes

’Money For Nothing’: Dire Straits’ Misunderstood MTV Classic
09-08-2022
’Money For Nothing’: Dire Straits’ Misunderstood MTV Classic
Hey, we're back! Sorry for the long hiatus, but we had a big show with the band and had to get a new drummer ready. It didn't help that Kevin messed up his back and was laid up for a bit. But Kevin and Butch return for another episode, this time focusing on "Money For Nothing," the memorable Dire Straits hit that ended up being a bit misunderstood and even controversial. A few notes about the episode: This week's beer was Spotted Cow, the much-loved Wisconsin staple brewed by New Glarus Brewing.We also had a Bourbon of the Week as a sidecar, that being Barrell Bourbon Batch 033.The guitar sound was inspired by ZZ Top.The animation was groundbreaking for its time and helped make it an MTV hit -- even though frontman Mark Knopfler wanted nothing to do with making a video.The song became controversial for some of the language used, but Knopfler wrote the song from the point of view of a "stupid" character.Nikki Sixx believes the character on which the narrator is based was watching a Motley Crue video when Knopfler overheard him. Knopfler famously was in an appliance store when he heard two workers making fun of the musicians on a wall of televisions showing MTV.There was a guy who used to make prank calls back in the late 1980s/early 1990s who used the name Mark Knopfler on his "victims." Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8teY54fMsxY (please excuse the language ...)There's even a tribute page to the guy: https://phonelosers.com/mark/comment-page-3/
’That Thing You Do!’: The Wonders, Tom Hanks and the Greatest ’Fake’ Song Ever
07-03-2022
’That Thing You Do!’: The Wonders, Tom Hanks and the Greatest ’Fake’ Song Ever
The Tom Hanks-written and -directed "That Thing You Do!" was the surprise, feel-good hit movie of 1996, and the film's theme song of the same name not only was nominated for multiple awards, it also hit #41 on the Billboard charts. Credited to fictional band The Wonders, the song was actually written by Fountains of Wayne's Adam Schlesinger and sung by Candy Butchers' front man Mike Viola. So, is it a real song or a fake song? If it hit the actual charts, it's real, right? Butch and Kevin talk about how the song came to be, its place in music and much more on Episode 3 of Season 2 of Rock 'n' Roll Rabbit Hole. A few notes: This week's beer of the week was The Truth IPA from Rhinegeist Brewing. We also tasted a new bourbon which is available only in Kentucky: Green River Distilling Co. Straight Bourbon Whiskey.Schlesinger's demo was chosen from roughly 300 submissions for the title track song, even beating out a song co-written by Hanks himself.The song sounds like a lost Beatles song, which is not a coincidence, as the film itself is filled with real-life Beatles parallels.The actors who made up The Wonders learned the songs, rehearsing for weeks to ensure realism. In this behind-the-scenes video, Hanks says “They had to go to rock 'n' roll bootcamp.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqohLGt0-lcIn a 17-minute Zoom reunion interview from 2020, The Wonders tell some fun stories from the filming of the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5iQambZAfkHere's the Youtube to the original Adam Schlesinger demo for "That Thing You Do!" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFtKFB0gtpw
‘Stacy‘s Mom‘: Lost Interview With Fountains of Wayne Frontman Chris Collingwood
04-10-2021
‘Stacy‘s Mom‘: Lost Interview With Fountains of Wayne Frontman Chris Collingwood
Fountains of Wayne had its lone Top 40 hit in 2003 with "Stacy's Mom," which is often remembered for the video starring actress Rachel Hunter. In this episode, Kevin digs out an interview he did with Chris Collingwood, the band's frontman, in 2003, just two weeks after the single was released. Most of the interview was never published, so Kevin and Butch included as many of Chris's quotes as possible, from naked guys across the street to gardening while stoned to whatever happened to the protagonist from "Leave the Biker." Along the way, they talk about "Stacy's Mom" and how it became an unexpected hit for a band that were already music industry veterans. Here are a few highlights to listen for: This week's beer is Hops For Teacher IPA from J. Wakefield Brewery in Florida. Good stuff!Collingwood foretold what the result of releasing a "novelty" song would be long before "Stacy's Mom" became a hit. The story involves Howard Stern.The video is a string of tributes to the '80s The song itself is a tribute of sorts to the Cars, with its structure borrowing from two classic Cars songs.For you Fountains of Wayne fans, Chris Collingwood has a new band, called Look Park. Here's a video to check out: https://youtu.be/iLDkrJFzxZUAnd here's Fountains of Wayne's haunting version of the Britney Spears hit "...Baby One More Time," as originally leaked on the Howard Stern Show: https://youtu.be/pmkVJJDseQsAnd finally, if you're a Fountains of Wayne fan, you surely already know about this song. But just in case, here's Robbie Fulks' "Fountains of Wayne Hotline": https://youtu.be/7vVJ2Om-QVg
‘Hotel California‘: Do You Hate the Eagles or Love the Eagles?
27-09-2021
‘Hotel California‘: Do You Hate the Eagles or Love the Eagles?
It's a tale as old as ... well the 1970s, when the Eagles were flying high (pun intended) on hits like "Take it Easy" and "Peaceful Easy Feeling." Then came "Hotel California," the dark, sprawling tune with the ominous, two-minute instrumental outro. It was and continues to be one of the most notable songs in rock 'n' roll. But over the years, a contingent of people came to hate the song and the band that created it. Why? We dig into it from a variety of perspectives. First, a few notes: This week's beer is New Glarus Moon Man, a beer only available in Wisconsin. (Kevin is a Green Bay Packers fan, and he and Butch recently went to Green Bay for training camp; this beer came back with them.)It's OK to like the Eagles, just don't admit you like the Eagles. (We kid.)Here's a fascinating read about why so many people hate The Eagles: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6851078/eagles-hatred-explainer-defense-glenn-freyButch has always liked the song and The Eagles. Kevin has had an up-and-down relationship with both over his lifespan.They agree song construction in its own right fits the subject matter, with the dark tones and guitar-solo climax matching the spooky lyric. Kudos to Don Felder, who did the heavy lifting in creating the song.They also agree Joe Walsh might be the coolest dude ever. Don Henley and Glenn Frey? Not so much. At least to Kevin, who shares a funny story about Don Henley and a root canal.Another interesting read from Chuck Klosterman on hating The Eagles: https://ew.com/article/2013/06/20/book-excerpt-chuck-klosterman/
Van Halen's 'Jump': Hello Synthesizers, Goodbye David Lee Roth
09-08-2021
Van Halen's 'Jump': Hello Synthesizers, Goodbye David Lee Roth
The song "Jump" and the album 1984 propelled Van Halen into the rock stratosphere -- and shortly thereafter, front man David Lee Roth left the band to start a solo career. What was it about "Jump" that resonated so strongly? Was it the unexpected decision to include synthesizers? Was it the goofy, low-budget video? Whatever, it endures, and it also started the ball rolling to the often-maligned Van Hagar era. Butch and Kevin discuss all this and more, with some details about the song and video you may not know. A few points to get you started: This week's beer is Apollo IPA from Apocalypse Brew Works.Roth hated the idea of adding synth to Van Halen's music, and in fact, the song had been in limbo for several years before Eddie Van Halen decided to record it on his own.The purpose of the award-winning video was to show the human side of the band, but even that ticked off Roth, who wanted to be the focal point of the video.A year later, Roth's ego led him away from Van Halen. But the keyboards stayed.Here, as promised, is an especially awkward example of what the "Jump" performance video inspired other, less charismatic bands to do with their music videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8qqQeLe_G8And this is Nerf Herder's brilliant nerdcore tune inspired by the Van Halen legacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvAGBz4ZJm4And if we'd known about this brilliance, we'd have mentioned on the show. Still ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ6bli9Xir4