The Athletic's Michael Cox, Mark Carey and Liam Tharme join host Ali Maxwell, to reflect on Jose Mourinho's fall from grace - 20 years on from winning the Champions League with Porto. Has modern club football left Mourinho behind. Do a younger generation of footballers tire of his methods too quickly and has he ever been a 'defensive' coach? Plus, why he is perfectly suited to international management now. Produced by Adonis Pratsides Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices