Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Vigilant: question answered in negative Kaiser: reversed California case: https://jcc.granicus.com/player/clip/4501?meta_id=116841 IL App can be found at: 4 / 4 https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ SCOTUS case can be found at: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/22-1079