DC Power Hour

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Welcome to “DC Power Hour”– the show where we will discuss everything related to – you guessed it – critical DC power solutions. Twice a month, we will get together and have a little fun talking with experts about the issues that are important to us and our industry. At Eagle Eye, we are huge on sharing knowledge, and our goal is to both educate and entertain our audience with this podcast. So, charge up, power on, or do whatever it is you have to do to get yourself excited for “DC Power Hour”! read less
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Unlocking Battery Insights: Navigating Load Testing Challenges
09-05-2024
Unlocking Battery Insights: Navigating Load Testing Challenges
In this episode of DC Power Hour, the Battery Blarney duo of George and Allen, along with our resident load bank technician and engineer Josh Fox, delve into the intricacies of load testing and load banks. They emphasize the critical importance of load testing in assessing battery capacity and highlight challenges faced by utilities in allocating manpower for comprehensive testing. The conversation explores IEEE and NERC standards for load testing, including acceptance tests and modified performance tests, and offers practical insights from field experiences. The hosts conclude by discussing strategies like cell jumping and the necessity of adjusting charger voltages, providing valuable tips for professionals in battery maintenance.Episode Highlights:4:59 – A common question I get is "why do we have to do a test for eight hours?"9:41 – When you're recharging the battery, you're shoving maximum current in into it. Depending on the design of the power system, you could be shoving two or three hundred amps into that battery.20:23 – There's also a couple of excellent papers on load testing itself. One by, I'll give a plug here, one by an old friend of mine and yours, Rick Tresler. And Another one by I believe it was Steve Clark on rate adjusted method.22:11 – You're putting yourself at risk because you're working on 120 volts with a lot of current around, and you're putting the system at risk if you get it wrong.49:14 – Are there certain pitfalls or certain things that people need to worry about in order to do a discharge test correctly?
We’re changing things up this episode with Marketing Guru Jay Schwedelson!
19-04-2024
We’re changing things up this episode with Marketing Guru Jay Schwedelson!
For this episode of DC Power Hour, we brought in another expert who’s powerful in his field, Marketing Guru Jay Schwedelson. Jay joins one of the Battery Blarney brothers, Allen Byrne, for a conversation across industries on generating demand by offering authentic and FREE thought leadership. Comparing the value of being a source of authoritative content in Marketing vs. the DC Power industry, we discuss the importance of providing our audiences educational information. We also have some fun discussing the inherent need for reliable power across all industries as well as the value of mindless reality television to decompress at the end of the day and make us all feel better our lives.Episode Highlights:4:59 – The path to success is not having an agenda. Sharing your industry knowledge, whatever industry that you're in, putting it out there and not saying, hey, do this.9:35 – When the powers out, you can still use your cell phone. Do you ever think why?13:17 – So Jay, we wanted to have a little fun here and we've got this subject line challenge that we've been incorporating and wanted to see if you could weigh in.17:49 – It's good that you guys are testing all this stuff. A lot of people, especially in the business to business marketing world, they're afraid to go as far as you guys are going but it's great to see that you are! 25:52 – I was thinking about what question do I have? I guess what I'm curious about, I'm always curious about this in any business.  I want to know what is, what's a bad day in your industry?
UPS Battery Applications and Data Centers
07-08-2023
UPS Battery Applications and Data Centers
In this episode of the DC Power Hour David and Allen introduce Ed Rafter, a special guest on DC Power Hour, who is an expert in UPS batteries. They discuss the differences between ups and downs, voltage, discharge times, and other aspects of battery powering. Ed has a 40-year career in mission-critical applications, focusing on batteries. He first learned about batteries in the 1980s when he worked for an engineering firm in New Jersey and then worked for data centers for the New York and American Stock Exchange and securities industry. Allen shares his experience installing dry charge batteries in Saudi Arabia in the late 70s.Episode Highlights01:06 – UPSs are now probably one of the largest users of batteries in this country. But there's a lot of differences between UPSs and other types of powering, and we'll go into that, you know, differences in voltage, discharge times, whole slew of stuff.08:24 – When I first was introduced to the battery, we used to size them for 30 minutes. That was pretty common as part of that was if all hell broke loose, we wanna make sure that the UPS stays online so we can either recover, figure out what went wrong, and see if we couldn't recover or have enough time so that we might be able to quiesce the system.30:09 – I think it was the first time I heard somebody got killed. It was one of the manufacturers, one of their people working in a battery cabinet. I had known of people getting hurt working on the racks, the open racks.42:33 – Now we're talking about bidirectional inverters. So instead of having a very large substantial rectifier that's gotta not only serve its critical load, but keep the battery charged.
The Latest on Codes and Standards and Battcon 2023 Preview
08-05-2023
The Latest on Codes and Standards and Battcon 2023 Preview
In this episode, the Battery Blarney Duo of Alan and George and are joined by their longtime friend and colleague at times, Dan Lambert. These gentlemen definitely have their finger on the pulse of the industry and can shed some light on the really interesting topic of codes and standards.  Episode Highlights04:40 – Not only with the national Electrical code NFPA 70, but also with the fire codes and UL and the IEEE standards. We've got so many change that's going on. It's sometime really hard to keep up with. You think just about UL alone, they've had revisions in the last six months of UL 94, UL 1778, 1973, 9540 has been revised and the 95 48 test procedure has been revised.  14:41 – And the, the crux of it is, is that what they do is they take a battery and they subject it to a, a variety of test methods, overcharge over discharge, overheating it short circuit a nail penetration test where that's something that's conceivable. And all of these tests are designed to see what it takes to set that battery on fire, if in fact it will will burn.  42:49 – So, and we know that monitoring and management within lithium battery is critical from a safety point of view to make sure that it doesn't either overcharge or over discharge, and to identify potential thermal runaway conditions. We don't have the same problem with the newer technologies, do we, Dan? What are we looking at in the way of monitoring and controls within these new technologies?  52:53 – And then when you have to build a system out of those components into something that's commercially viable, and you have generally contract manufacturing doing the assembly and such as that with those systems, you've introduced several layers of potential miscommunication, let's just put it that way, and that miscommunication can be a real problem for the end user.
Setting the Record Straight on Battery Monitoring
05-04-2023
Setting the Record Straight on Battery Monitoring
In this episode, the Battery Blarney Duo is back in action to discuss the important topic of battery monitoring for different types of stationary battery applications. What all does a BMS monitor and what doesn't it? They'll discuss IEEE 1491, which they've have both chaired committees on, and review all that's included in this vital standard while dispelling any myths in the process. For anyone who wants crucial insights on the history of battery monitoring, as well as some ideas as to where it's headed, tune in and get the facts from George and Allen.Episode Highlights9:35 – IEEE came up with the term omic resistance to cover all three methods of checking the omic path through a battery.16:59 – If we talk about true battery monitoring where you actually are going to monitor the battery on a 24/7 basis then it starts to become a lot more interesting because as you said, and I will totally reinforce there is no single parameter within that data collected by the monitor that indicates failure or loss of capacity.20:50 – As you get into the larger vented lead acid batteries which have a extremely small resistance of the metallic path. You have to be conscious of the fact that you’re going to have to pull a lot of current, or push a lot of current, push, a lot of signal through that battery to make it meaningful.35:35 – Besides the visual things you talk about George, that you can’t look at or see, a good battery monitor will be able to measure ripple, current, ripple voltage.44:58 – So if you have a battery in a cabinet, you need to be measuring the temperature of a battery unit that is surrounded by others where you’re gonna find the biggest contact temperature. How much temperature rise. So the other thing that I’m looking at here are some of the interpretations of battery monitoring with respect to 1491, and that’s the measurement of ground fault.
Compliant Redundancy from a Single Industrial Battery Charger
08-03-2023
Compliant Redundancy from a Single Industrial Battery Charger
In this episode, George is joined by Lucas Berndt, modular switch-mode charger product expert, to talk about industrial battery chargers and redundancy. They discuss the benefits of having a modular charger – with hot-swappable power modules – for redundant functionality in case of an outage. They address how this satisfies NERC and TPL standards that aim to eliminate single points of failure – and instead of having to buy and make room for two chargers, just one of these chargers will do the trick. Tune in for an in-depth conversation about chargers that you don’t want to miss.6:10One of the things that I really like about the modular chargers is the fact that at a location, just by adding a small charger, we suddenly have full N+1 redundancy. 12:53Basically, what I look for when I’m looking for redundancy, in talking about plusses, that is also variant from utility to utility – what they view as redundancy. So, they may look at it from the standpoint of my redundancy in my equation is I need, if this charger fails, I need to have the exact same power it had available. Or is their term of redundancy, I can lose a little, but I still maintain.23:43Changing out a modular battery charger is so easy a salesman can do it. I can be done 100% safely. It is pretty safe and pretty fast.43:10With NERC and TPL standards aiming to address and eliminate single points of failure, and a lack of space to consider when configuring system updates, being able to use a single charger instead of two is a priority.
How Does Standby Battery Power Work Exactly?
15-02-2023
How Does Standby Battery Power Work Exactly?
How Does Standby Battery Power WorkIn this episode, George of The Battery Blarney Duo answers questions about the basic concept and workings of battery backup for electric substations and their critical components. He touches on topics including ensuring the stability and reliability of the electricity grid, reducing the risk of equipment damage, keeping communications systems powered and preventing costly power outages.The session highlights that battery monitoring systems are critical components of battery backup systems in electric substations. They provide real-time information on the battery's state of charge, voltage, and health, enabling timely maintenance and ensuring that the battery is always ready to provide emergency power when needed.Episode Highlight2:43 - When there is an outage and substation stand-by power is engaged, how does that work?8:00 - Substation communications systems are a key part of the system and depend on having a properly maintained battery back up system.10:12 - Learn what happens when the power flickers out for a moment and what to expect if it happens more than once.15:01 - George explains how power is shifted around through the system and touches on the failings that led to the 2021 electrical crisis in Texas.17:56 - Technicians play a critical role in maintaining the safety and reliability of electrical power systems, and having both field experience and mission critical training is essential. Training with real-world equipment, problem solving, and seeing the consequences of their actions in a safe and controlled environment are invaluable.Eagle Eye E-mail
Battery Chemistries and Applications: Part Two
21-12-2022
Battery Chemistries and Applications: Part Two
The discussion about the chemistry and applications of batteries continues in this episode with David, Al Warner and Dan Lambert, and The Battery Blarney Duo. They are comparing flow and lead acid batteries in terms of their reliability and need for maintenance. They examine the problem if you have an energy-storage battery, such as a zinc manganese battery, as well as the benefit of nickel zinc batteries in which electrodes interact with electrolytes. They also mention that a hybrid system using both nickel zinc and manganese dioxide batteries might be very efficient, and that if manufacturers collaborate, third-party integrators will find it easy to connect these products together into a cohesive unit.Tune in to hear about the various codes and standards affecting stationary batteries plus comments about systems integrators and how they can fail when integrating different types of energy storage.Episode Highlights06:33 - There are a lot of things about different systems that most people are not aware of and they think, "Oh, fuel cell, that's the answer to everything." It's not. It can never be the answer to everything. A lead acid battery is not going to oxygen starve the environment that's surrounding it. Fuel cells definitely can do that. A large system can starve the oxygen in the inside of a facility. Lesson is learned the hard way. 15:40 - I'm glad you brought up the idea of the hybrid battery system. Problem is that you end up, for instance, working with two different manufacturers, obviously competing for business, who don't always want to cooperate as well as they could. So, you end up with a third party having to do it.24:42 - Integrators are probably the short end of the circuit. You have to have people that are qualified and there seemed to be very few of them. It's interesting to me that you gain wisdom by knowledge. You gain wisdom by failing. There's no two ways around it. Experience counts for an awful lot in this game. The powers that be seem to want to push us towards an electrified world without adequate thought, without any experience. It's up to us in the industry, basically, to educate those that are coming into the industry. Contact InformationEagle Eye E-mail
Battery Chemistries and Applications: Part One
07-12-2022
Battery Chemistries and Applications: Part One
The Battery Blarney Duo are joined by industry experts Al Warner and Dan Lambert to discuss lead acid, lithium, nickel cadmium and other prominent battery chemistries and their proper applications. They discuss the pros and cons of these popular chemistries as well as the prospect of other interesting options, like that of zinc manganese. The discussion revolves around selecting the best battery for a given application and how some outdated technology might be reimagined to better suit present-day requirements. With roughly 150 years of industry experience on this epsiode alone, it's safe to say there are a lot of insights to gain from listenting to these four battery veterans.Episode Highlights16:47 - Most of these lithium battery fires have occurred because people did not have good fire suppression to take care of the external flame source.30:42 - The problem we have with most people is they think lithium is a one size fits all. It's not. It cannot fit all of the applications. 33:59 - Through the years, there have literally been millions of dollars invested into the development of the nickel zinc technology.35:41 - The other technology I was alluding to is zinc manganese dioxide. It's kind of the other end of the scale. It's a zinc battery, very similar to the zinc manganese primary cells.46:18 - The real key here to energy storage as we move forward is going to be, and is rapidly becoming kind of a focal point for everybody, is the sustainability of the technology. And some of these old technologies – yeah, they're old. They weren't really, shall we say, manipulated or commercialized, basically, because the technology at the time of the invention was, to our way of looking at it, very rudimentary. We have much better technology now and as modern science looks at these things, they can see massive improvements that can be made.Contact InformationEagle Eye E-mail