This Old Marketing

Joe Pulizzi & Robert Rose

Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes. This Old Marketing is part of the Content Marketing Institute(CMI) Podcast Network. read less
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Are Corporate Social Media Handles Dead? (424)
4d ago
Are Corporate Social Media Handles Dead? (424)
John Deere's search for a new social media creator leads to an important conversation - are corporate social media handles dead? Faced with possibly paying for the news, Google starts removing links to California news sites for some users. And the winner for the dumb move of the year goes to... The VC market for creator startups is up the the first time in multiple quarters, while a group of TikTok influencers send a nasty gram to Joe Biden. Hits and misses include Dove and AI and Caitlin Clark on SNL. Rants and raves include gaming Spotify and the Chief Marketing Officer tenure. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: Google Won't Pay for News John Deere Hunts for Chief Tractor Officer Creator Startups and VCs TikTok Influencers Send Letter to Joe Biden Dove and AI SNL and Caitlin Clark CMO Tenures Spotify and SEO This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount.  ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
The Rebirth of Print as Innovative Marketing (423)
12-04-2024
The Rebirth of Print as Innovative Marketing (423)
Could marketers finally be waking up to the advantages of direct print? The relaunch of some high-profile magazines, and the launch of Robinhood's new print magazine leads our discussion. In other news, Alphabet is reportedly looking at acquiring Hubspot and a new privacy bill is being drafted in Congress. And...is synthetic AI training data setting us up for disaster? Hits and misses include Jack Conte and Suno.ai. Rants and raves include creators Kelsey Russell and Andrew Huberman. And Joe's new book is out...get a copy here: https://www.joepulizzi.com/books/content-entrepreneur/ This week's links: Women's NCAA Ratings Bonanza Google/Hubspot Deal New Privacy Bill Nylon Re-launches in Print Robinhood Creates Media Arm Tech Giants and AI Training Data Jack Conte's SXSW Presentation - The Death of the Follower Kelsey Russell and Print Newspapers Crisis Communications and Alex Huberman This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
Here Comes Social Media Verification (421)
29-03-2024
Here Comes Social Media Verification (421)
News this week as Florida governor Ron DeSantis signs a law restricting social media access for children. Is this the first step to full-on social media verification or just another fruitless attempt to tell people how to parent? Trump's Truth Social goes public and hits meme stock territory. How long with the party last? Spotify adds video learning to its platform. Is YouTube in Spotify's sights? And print is back baby! Hits and misses include a Ryan's World movie and Comscore. Rants and raves include rants against Accenture and Meta's Threads. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: Florida Age-Gating Law Trump's Truth Social Meme Stock Truth Social's Revenue Problem Spotify Adds Video Learning Print On the Move Pew Research on Print Comscore Deal Ryan's World Movie Accenture and Adobe AI Release This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ----- Content Connect 2024 - Join speakers from JPMC, Square, and Marriott, as well as your fellow content, digital and analytics leaders, for a day of keynote sessions, interactive workshops and unparalleled networking opportunities.   If you're interested in attending this free event, please visit knotch.com/contentconnect. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
Apple Shows AI Weakness with Google Deal (420)
22-03-2024
Apple Shows AI Weakness with Google Deal (420)
In this special episode #420, Joe and Robert dissect the upcoming Apple/Google deal for AI and the iPhone. Is this a sign of weakness for Apple or are they just buying time? OpenAI's chatbot store is filling up with spam. Are you surprised? And a group of publishing experts launch Authors Equity to give more rights back to authors. Uh, we don't think so. Hits and misses include Liquid Death and Coca-Cola. Rants and raves includes a full overview of the TikTok banning bill and why it's harder to become a creator today. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: Don Lemon Pivot Interview Apple and Google to Partner on AI OpenAI Spam New Publishing Model Isn't Great It's Harder to Become a Creator Today No TikTok Bill This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ----- Content Connect 2024 - Join speakers from JPMC, Square, and Marriott, as well as your fellow content, digital and analytics leaders, for a day of keynote sessions, interactive workshops and unparalleled networking opportunities.   If you're interested in attending this free event, please visit knotch.com/contentconnect. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
AI Content: Time Is Running Out to Get Your Content House in Order (419)
15-03-2024
AI Content: Time Is Running Out to Get Your Content House in Order (419)
We are in post-social media and, now, a post-search environment. The next 12 months are critical to start getting your content assets in order for the AI Content wave. The House passes a bill that could lead to a TikTok ban. Uh, we told you so. But does it really matter? Google's Gemini AI refuses to answer political questions (among other things). This leads to a conversation on how AI Truth is coordinated and what we can do about it. MrBeast tells everyone to slow down a bit...that less content is more. Thank you sir! And OpenAI starts doing publisher deals. Hello Google circa 2002. Hits and misses include Kate Middleton and Da'Vine Joy Randolph. Rants and raves include Kara Swisher's new book (rant) and the quote by Sam Altman heard round the world. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: TikTok House Ban Google Gemini Is Mum on Elections MrBeast Slows Down OpenAI Publisher Deals Sam Altman and 95 Percent Quote Da'Vine's Oscar Speech This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ----- Content Connect 2024 - Join speakers from JPMC, Square, and Marriott, as well as your fellow content, digital and analytics leaders, for a day of keynote sessions, interactive workshops and unparalleled networking opportunities.   If you're interested in attending this free event, please visit knotch.com/contentconnect. ----- StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount.  ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
Is Content Exclusivity Dead? (414)
09-02-2024
Is Content Exclusivity Dead? (414)
The boys discuss Joe Rogan's new content deal with Spotify. Is this the future of podcast and YouTube deals, or is this just for the one percenters? Also, how should a brand approach this kind of deal? Meta will label AI images across all their properties. Is this just a point in time or will it have lasting impact? In addition, Meta cut off Facebook to developers. Like we didn't see that coming. In hits and misses, Robert praises L'Oreal and misses on Taylor and the right. Joe hits on Spotify and audiobooks, and misses on Grant Cardone's new magazine. Rants and raves include Billy Joel and B2B companies lack of big ideas. This week's links: Discount to CEX 2024 - Use Coupon Code "TOM" Joe Rogan Deal with Spotify Is Content Exclusivity Over? Meta to Label AI Images Facebook Cuts Out Developers L'Oreal Hits Big Taylor Swift Outrage Billy Joel Writes Again ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount.  ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
The Water Polo-Playing Squirrels Episode (410)
12-01-2024
The Water Polo-Playing Squirrels Episode (410)
If you don't get the title, stay until the end. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss what's happening at CES, including the role of the creator/influencer inside a media company. Netflix, Instagram and Amazon all make major streaming cutbacks. Is this just "right sizing" the business, or is everyone trying to figure out how to compete with TikTok? In rants and raves, it's the end of the third-party cookie on Google, and a new sports bar opens with access to sports from women athletes only. This week's links: CES 2024 Kicks Off What Happens When the Creator Goes Crazy? Netflix Cuts Over 100 Shows CNBC to Start Courses Third-Party Cookies The Sports Bra A Great Kickstarter Example The True Crime Podcast from Robert Riggs ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount.  ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
2024 Content Marketing Predictions Show [Special Episode] (407)
22-12-2023
2024 Content Marketing Predictions Show [Special Episode] (407)
It's here! The annual episode where Robert and Joe predict everything that will not go right in the content marketing and media world. This year, the boys predict: A social media collapse - TikTok and YouTube see big surges as the waves of the strike Tsunami hit.AI goes mainstream and actually starts to earn its keep – but NOT in creating externally focused content  but rather conversational Advertising and behind the scenes marketing work.Brands go "all in" on owned media  - especially video.Local news and journalism make a big comeback.At least three, major brands launch new, shiny print publications and send them through the post.X will see a huge advertising turnaround (due to the fact that most everyone left). More eyeballs for less dollars.Newsletters will continue their hot stream, led by creator referral networks, and you'll see more creators stop producing their lagging podcasts.More AI-driven news networks continue to launch, followed by an AI running for president in 2028. This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
Short-Form Video Is the New Marketing Gateway Drug (406)
15-12-2023
Short-Form Video Is the New Marketing Gateway Drug (406)
The latest social media usage results by Pew are out and...surprise, surprise...almost half of all teenagers are on social media "literally all the time." It seems that short-form videos are ruling the day on nearly all platforms. Mega-publisher Axel Springer does a deal with ChatGPT to include news. What does this mean for media companies and the future of search? And everything you know about podcasts might actually be wrong. Rants and raves include permissions on Dropbox and Magna/OpenAP doing a deal. This week's links: Axel Springer Deals with OpenAI Pew Research on Teen Social Media Usage Everything You Know about Podcasts Is Wrong Sounds Profitable Podcast Research Spotify and Audiobook Streaming Dropbox and Third-Party AI How Anxiety Became Content Magna and OpenAP Data Deal This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ------ StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount.  ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.