In this week’s regular episode, Daniel Friebe and Lionel Birnie are joined by former Team Sky and Katusha ace turned gravel-racing maestro Ian Boswell.

After our usual round-up of the week’s news, it’s time to reflect on Tadej Pogačar’s 2023 racing début at the Clásica Jaén Paraíso Interior - and his scintillating victory on the white roads of what has already established itself as Spain’s answer to Strade Bianche.

The Pogcineration on the Andalusian farm tracks is also our cue to quiz Ian about what’s in store for him and the gravel scene generally in 2023. Then, in the last part of the episode, we hear from EF Education First - Easypost’s Esteban Chaves about his recent victory in the Colombian national road race championship and what made it so poignant.

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