In this weeks retrospective episode, we take a look at the warning signs that your home drinking has turned into a problem.What starts off as an innocent, cost-effective and convenient solution soon spirals into something far more sinister.Don't let this happen to you!You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/677p8Bel8v1H3EhUshoCeh?si=0e1d511c0cb94b9f Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If you are newly sober, we can guarantee your water intake is about to go through the roof. Tea, coffee and sparkling water are your new best friends - and that can sometimes feel a little dull!In today's episode, Vic and Hame will talk you through the benefits of increasing your water intake, tackle some of the myths surrounding the water content in alcohol and (try!) and make you feel less dull whilst ordering water in a bar.We went off on a couple of weird tangents about Binking Ginges and why this episode should be sponsored by the Shewee and for some reason Vic tried to make this episode all about pee. If you know Vic, you will know that this is hardly surprising though...JOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups and loads more.@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotifyIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode, Vic and Lucy have done the scientific research (We are not doctors...we are not doctors...we are not doctors!), to find out how much damage our drinking has done to our bodies.Oh and Vic tells a cruel story about her Dad...You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/3N0Z9oEtWU4PivOK4vH4qQ?si=798ea3b35aad4bc6 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As a society we see fame as something to aspire to. But is it really all it's cracked up to be?Today's episode of Sober Awkward is all about celebrity.What's it really like when managers control your every move, you have expectations of others weighing upon you, a heavy workload, people that look up to you and way too many nights in hotel rooms… where does it all lead?Today Vic and Hamish discuss the recent passing of Matthew Perry and why we lose so many talented people to addiction. Vic reminisces about some of her famous run-ins and Hame wonders if he's been missing out on some celeb snogs.As Oscar Wilde said,‘Aspirations for fame are motivated mainly by the need for validation and attention.’which unfortunately can lead many wonderful people down a path to heavy boozing.Enjoy!Show Noteshttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt27647417/ - Aaron Carter Docohttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt7357302/ - Avici Docohttps://www.imdb.com/name/nm9425078/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 - Lil Peep Docohttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt28210840/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 -Robbie Williams Docohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=tRnFHfI7WAQ - Paul McCartney singing Hey Jude - again!www.soberawkward.comJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups, Tea and loads more.@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotifyIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode, we take you back to the moment that Vic and Lucy officially launched Cuppa back in April of 2022! The free sober social network has grown organically since then and is an invaluable resource to our sober listeners around the world! If you haven't joined yet - check it out at cuppa.community or through the Mighty Networks app.You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/episode/3N0Z9oEtWU4PivOK4vH4qQ?si=798ea3b35aad4bc6 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Blame Game...We call it a game but it isn't all that fun really.'It's not my fault I drink this much - I do it because...'Enter one of a thousand possible answers:My parentsMy upbringingMy jobMy partner My mother-in-lawI live above a pubSocietyTV and Media and Mr BlobbyEtc. etc. etc You name it, we have probably blamed one of these things for our over drinking at some point!But what purpose does passing the buck play in helping us get sober?Is it instead diverting the attention away from the fact that you might have a alcohol use disorder?In this episode, Vic and Hame dive into some of the factors they blamed in the past and explore healthier and more efficient ways to get sober!Enjoy! RESOURCESwww.cuppa.communityJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups, Tea and loads more.Buy Sober Awkward T-Shirts and Tea at: www.cuppashop.com@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotify @budsandbeadsteaIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode Vic has a chat with the amazing Faye Laurence about dating and sober sex. Is it as awkward as you'd imagine?https://www.fayelawrence.com.auYou can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/show/4qXlSc9lDGStYLeYIjrWPH?si=d5d0186db8b64b04 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We've all done it. Texted an ex, bought an inflatable shark suit and taken dick pic then sent in to your mother-in-law when pissed. Unfortunately, going live, calling, messaging, face-timing and snap chatting when tanked-up to your eyeballs on wine... are a dodgy part of this modern, technology based world. Let's face it, after a few bevvies you feel confident in what you say, spend and share. Booze means you don't care so much about consequences of your actions and well, you really did need that space age electric toilet seat at the time.Today Vic and Hame discuss the shame of waking up having texted people when under the influence and buying weird shit online when you can't even remember your own name. They will run through some intimate confessions, discuss the dangers of sharing nudes online, the mental health consequences of others seeing your drunken messages and how shopping for top hats for toads might be something you regret the next day.. confused? We are too! Ribbit!Today's episode of Sober Awkward is an opportunity to share some shame. Get it off your chest! Yes, its over to the listeners to own up to some embarrassing text messages and awkward on-line shenanigans.Enjoy the episode! RESOURCESwww.cuppa.communityJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups, Tea and loads more.Buy Sober Awkward T-Shirts and Tea at: www.cuppashop.com@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotify @budsandbeadsteaIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode Vic and Lucy give you some tips on how to get through a holiday and actually make memories instead of blacking them out.You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/show/4qXlSc9lDGStYLeYIjrWPH?si=d5d0186db8b64b04 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Osher is quite simply, one of the most recognisable faces…and voices…in Australia.From his early days on Channel V to hosting The Batchelor and The Bachelorette - Osher has been the face of Australia'a biggest TV shows for over 20 years.More importantly, for the sake of our podcast - Hamish was lucky enough to sit down with Osher on the day he celebrated his 14 year soberversary.When we talk about 'doing the work' - not many have done quite as much as Osher.Osher is a man who has turned his complex mental health issues into his greatest strengths. Social anxiety, depression, PTSD, psychotic episodes and suicidal ideations are just some of the challenges that he has overcome.And he sites his sobriety as being the key factor that enabled him not only to survive but to thrive amongst all this.The man that I met is one who has lived a life but continues to smile and share his story with humour!I would encourage you to listen to this episode with a pen in your hand because there are more nuggets of wisdom in this single conversation, than Hame and Vic have managed in over 100 episodes!Enjoy!RESOURCESwww.cuppa.communityJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups, Tea and loads more.Buy Sober Awkward T-Shirts and Tea at: www.cuppashop.com@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotify @budsandbeadsteaIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode Vic and Lucy take a look at some awful holidays as drinker - that whet down the drain with some tequila shots and a nasty bout of crabs.You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/show/4qXlSc9lDGStYLeYIjrWPH?si=d5d0186db8b64b04 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sobriety can be hard at first. You feel like a weirdo, the odd one out, a party pooper. But, the good news is - the longer you do it, the easier it becomes. Part of the process is getting to know who you are without booze pumping around your precious body. You have to meet yourself for the first time with no escape! Confront the mistakes you may have made and decide which parts of you you like and which parts can be flushed away with that last shot of Tequila.Both Vic and Hamish have changed since they gave up drinking. Even though they both cringe at the thought of 'Self Love' these two know that getting to know the you after alcohol is one of the necessary and most rewarding parts of sober life.So, strap yourselves in as you get to know about Vic's low opinion of herself as a drinker, how Hame manages to look in the mirror and say 'You're a ten out of ten' and finally how embracing who you are is the scaffolding to a solid, long term sober life.RESOURCESwww.cuppa.communityJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups, Tea and loads more.Buy Sober Awkward T-Shirts and Tea at: www.cuppashop.com@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotify @budsandbeadsteaIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode Vic and Lucy take a look at those alcohol induced panic attacks. Why do we get them, how does alcohol trigger mental torment and are they always destined to get worse?You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/show/4qXlSc9lDGStYLeYIjrWPH?si=d5d0186db8b64b04 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Don't give up alcohol... Alright, maybe we are being slightly facetious. (Anyone else get one of those word a day calendars this year...no...just me?Giving up a serious drinking habit cold turkey can lead to some pretty awful and even fatal results.Allow us to introduce you to the slightly terrifying world of Alcohol Withdrawal Symptom or AWS.Firsly, this is not an excuse for you to NOT give up drinking. You will still need to do that I'm afraid. In today's episode we will guide you through exactly how you need to approach it in the safest way possible.A lot fo Sober Awkward episodes contain the bizarre ramblings and story telling of us two muppets - but not this one!With any luck, this one might just help save your life.Show NotesClinical Institute Withdrawal Assessment of Alcohol Test:https://www.msdmanuals.com/en-au/professional/multimedia/clinical-calculator/ciwa-ar-clinical-institute-withdrawal-assessment-for-alcohol-scaleVic's book is out! Go and get yourself a copy whilst you can...https://www.booktopia.com.au/a-thousand-wasted-sundays-victoria-vanstone/book/9780645757941.htmland please give a review at www.goodreads.comJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups and loads more.@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotifyIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode Vic and Lucy take a look at hangziety. When does drinking go from having a good time with mates to actually being a problem?You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/show/4qXlSc9lDGStYLeYIjrWPH?si=d5d0186db8b64b04 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's safe to say that boredom is one of the most important topics in sobriety. The fear of being considered boring either keeps you from trying sobriety altogether or drives you back to the booze bus after a few quiet sober nights in!It is our mission at Sober Awkward to prove that sobriety is NOT boring!Filling your life with authentic connections and new passions instead of hangovers and kebabs is infinitely less dull!It's time to reassess what 'boring' means and consider why you are letting what other people think affect you at all.Wrapping your head around this topic will set you up for the most rewarding and long lasting sobriety possible.Enjoy! Show Noteswww.soberawkward.comJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups, Tea and loads more.@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotifyIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's Sydney Mardi Gras weekend and what better way to celebrate love...than with a bonus episode of Sober Awkward!Yes, today Vic and Hamish had a chat about alcohol in the gay community and how young LGBTQ+ people often turn to booze when isolated, experiencing low- self esteem or feelings unloved when family don't support their decision to come out. Vic delves into the history of the gay bar and find out why bars can feel like a safe haven for the community, sometimes the only place to feel accepted and how this can lead to too much partying, and Hamish, well, he spends the episode reminiscing about the time he got felt up in a hot tub with his brother. Unfortunately, for the gay community, Vic and Hamish are straight. (Boooooo!) So they decided to have a chat with the lovely Andrew Addie about coming out, leaning on booze to cope with mental health issues, delivering lube to the masses and what it's like being the only sober at Mardi Gras.Happy Mardi Gras Weekend Everybody!Show NotesVic's book is out! Go and get yourself a copy whilst you can...https://www.booktopia.com.au/a-thousand-wasted-sundays-victoria-vanstone/book/9780645757941.htmland please give a review at www.goodreads.comJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups and loads more.@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotifyIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode Vic and Lucy take a look at making better choices when it comes to booze and being honest about their behaviours.You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/show/4qXlSc9lDGStYLeYIjrWPH?si=d5d0186db8b64b04 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Anxiety is a very common problem. In fact, 30% of people will suffer from a bout of anxiety at some point in their lives.... and Vic is one of themIn todays episode Vic tries to work out if past feelings of panic were 100% caused by drinking or was it her body crying out for help? And Hamish reflects on hangovers, the feeling of humiliation after black outs and (for some weird reason) a fear of buttons. It might sound like a load of old rubbish, and it's certainly no Huberman, but somehow they unravel how alcohol triggers anxiety, what's happening to the brain and the frightening pattern you can get stuck in when trying to 'drink away' the symptoms of anxiety.So, if you are getting alcohol induced anxiety and can't quite seem to shift the hangziety blues - then this is the episode for you. Enjoy.Show Noteswww.soberawkward.comJOIN PATREON! and buy us a Cuppa so we can keep being awkward!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81897291www.cuppa.community – The Free Social Network for the Sober and Sober Curious - Sober Events – Therapy – Sobriety Courses – Sober Groups, Tea and loads more.@soberawkward @drunkmummysobermummy@cuppa.community @hamishadamscairns @patreon @spotifyIf you are struggling with your relationship with alcohol please reach out to your local doctor, a therapist, AA Group or just chat to a close friend. Don’t feel shame, just get the help you deserve. Contact us! If you have a topic you’d like us to cover then please email us -vicandhamish@soberawkward.comCheck out our website at: https://www.soberawkward.com#soberawkward #soberawkwardpodcast #drunkmummysobermummy #cuppa.community #sober #sobermom #sobermummy #sobriety #soberaf #sobermovement #sobercurious #alcoholfree #mummybloggers #writersofinsta #soberfamily #greyareadrinking #addiction #soberissexy #soberwomen #sobermomtribe #sobrietyrocks #soberlifestyle #alcoholfreelife #wedorecover #sobernation #mumblog #mentalhealth #motherhood #wineoclock #sobermums #selfcare #womeninrecovery #sobercommunity #soberdads #1000sundays Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this weeks retrospective episode Vic and Lucy take a look at the functional drinker. Are you really getting away with those big nights out?You can listen to the full episode here:https://open.spotify.com/show/4qXlSc9lDGStYLeYIjrWPH?si=d5d0186db8b64b04 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.