Thinking LSAT

Nathan Fox and Ben Olson

Ben Olson and Nathan Fox started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review, and 3) send us questions: help@thinkinglsat.com. Don't pay for law school! Learn more at lsatdemon.com read less
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How to Review Your Mistakes (Ep. 470)
6d ago
How to Review Your Mistakes (Ep. 470)
LSAT growth comes from thoroughly reviewing your mistakes. But what does a thorough review look like? Ben and Nathan describe their approach and explain why they don’t recommend keeping a wrong answer journal. The guys also compare law school to wizard school. They reject an impatient admissions strategy. And they consider potential risks associated with the military’s Funded Legal Education Program. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 470 on YouTube 1:31 - Confusing Writing - In a new study, cognitive scientists at MIT explain why legalese is so difficult to understand. 9:13 - Improving in RC - An anonymous listener has been told that they won’t improve much in Reading Comprehension. Ben and Nathan tell Anonymous to ignore the haters. 14:18 - Review - Nathan and Ben advocate a deep review of every mistake. But keeping a wrong answer journal is likely a waste of time. 26:42 - Apply Now or Later? - Is it better to apply early with a subpar LSAT or to apply late with a great LSAT? Ben and Nathan ask: Why pick the lesser of two evils when you can avoid the evil entirely? 34:49 - Comparative RC Passages - The guys outline their approach to comparative passages in Reading Comprehension. 37:28 - JAG and FLEP - An LSAT Demon student warns listeners about potential risks associated with the military’s Funded Legal Education Program.   48:28 - Word of the Week - You can mollify your test anxiety by improving at the test.
Scholarship Shenanigans (Ep. 469)
26-08-2024
Scholarship Shenanigans (Ep. 469)
Ben and Nathan warn listeners about tactics that some law schools use to make mediocre scholarships appear better than they really are. The guys also discuss a new ABA regulation meant to standardize 1L learning outcomes. They double down on their advice to apply broadly. And they model their approach to Logical Reasoning on a Weaken question from PrepTest 123. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 469 on YouTube 2:27 - Fee Waiver Changes - LSAC now requires students with fee waivers to test twice in LawHub before registering for an official LSAT. Fee waiver recipients must also take the interactive course “How Do I Apply to Law School?” 7:44 - New Rules for Law Schools - A new ABA regulation aims to make law school courses more uniform and give law students more feedback about their academic progress. Nathan and Ben doubt that the new rules will have their intended effects. 15:51 - Better School or Better Price? - Is it better to attend a great law school for an OK price or an OK law school for a great price? Ben and Nathan urge listener Daniel to apply broadly and to focus on the LSAT before worrying about his law school decision. 23:36 - Scholarship Shenanigans - Nathan and Ben shine a light on a shady scholarship practice. 41:02 - Logical Reasoning: Weaken - The guys tackle a Weaken question from PrepTest 123. Try the question yourself. Then, listen to Ben and Nathan’s explanation. 56:50 - Word of the Week - Adopt a parsimonious attitude regarding law school.
Why Did My Score Drop? (Ep. 468)
19-08-2024
Why Did My Score Drop? (Ep. 468)
Nathan and Ben examine the root cause of underperformance on the LSAT: too much concern for the clock and not enough focus on understanding. The guys also poke fun at Nathan’s alma mater, share tips for staying focused on timed sections, and praise a listener’s decision to step away from a T20 law school. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 468 on YouTube 1:04 - Alumni Donations - The guys laugh at an “exciting opportunity” to donate money to UC Law San Francisco. 15:31 - Timed Sections - Listener Mike is avoiding timed sections until he improves at the test. Nathan and Ben explain why this approach is misguided—all LSAT students should make timed sections a cornerstone of their study. 18:43 - Staying Focused - An anonymous listener struggles to stay focused during timed sections. Ben and Nathan instruct Anonymous to zoom in on one question at a time. 27:44 - Score Drop - Listener Annabelle is flustered by a sudden score drop. Nathan and Ben blame Annabelle’s preoccupation with speed over accuracy. 33:23 - Why Law School? - The guys counsel a high-earning listener to reconsider their reasons for pursuing law school. 44:55 - Become a Good Test Taker - Listener Angelina describes herself as “an awful test taker.” Ben and Nathan implore Angelina to improve her self-talk by deciding to become a good test taker. 49:42 - GPA Addendums - The guys recommend more effective alternatives to writing a GPA addendum. 59:12 - Dropping Out - Nathan and Ben applaud an anonymous listener’s decision to drop out of law school. 1:06:19 - Words of the Week - A few students pay for law school. Few feel good about it.
Fewer Jobs for New JDs (Ep. 466)
05-08-2024
Fewer Jobs for New JDs (Ep. 466)
Recent law school graduates have benefited from a hot hiring market, but there are signs that the market might be cooling off. Nathan and Ben consider the implications for future law students. Later, the guys affirm the importance of applying early. They discuss prediction strategy for Must Be True questions. And they advise students not to flag questions on timed sections. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 466 on YouTube 1:02 - Legal Hiring Slows - Law firm recruiting just hit an 11-year low. But a slowdown in legal hiring shouldn’t affect your decision to attend law school. 9:38 - Application Timing - How late is too late to apply? Ben and Nathan invite listener Sammy to ask a better question: When is the best time to apply? 18:24 - Creative Predictions - Must Be True questions are no place to flex your creativity. Nathan and Ben instruct listener Cleo to pick the boring, obvious answer on these and other closed question types. 28:59 - Don’t Flag Questions - The guys explain why flagging questions to revisit later might sabotage your score on timed sections. 37:08 - Pearls vs. Turds - Is there any value in combining the hardest questions from multiple LR sections into extra-difficult “supersets”? 42:25 - GPA Boost - An anonymous listener considers a costly means of boosting their UGPA. 48:50 - Gaining Confidence - An anonymous listener struggles with low confidence on “actual test day.” Nathan and Ben encourage Anonymous to draw confidence from their practice tests, all of which were actual LSATs. 1:00:46 - Word of the Week - Let your LSAT be a bulwark against law school debt.
Embrace Score Variance (Ep. 465)
29-07-2024
Embrace Score Variance (Ep. 465)
Score variance isn’t a problem—it’s an opportunity. Nathan and Ben encourage LSAT students to pursue the upside of their score range by taking the test multiple times. The guys also share a key to getting faster at Reading Comprehension. They assure a conflicted student that it’s OK to pivot away from law school. And they lay out an approach to Logical Reasoning that balances caution and confidence. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 465 on YouTube 3:23 - Score Variance - Don’t aim to eliminate score variance in your practice tests. Score variance is your friend if you commit to taking the LSAT multiple times. 10:04 - What’s an Assumption? - Ben and Nathan explain the difference between necessary assumptions and sufficient assumptions. 20:17 - Rereading RC Passages - Skimming your reading assignments might have worked for you in college, but it won’t cut it in LSAT Reading Comprehension. 28:31 - Improving RC Timing - Want to get faster at RC? Spend less time debating wrong answers. 34:05 - Passive Skill Acquisition - A new study suggests that passive exposure to a skill can help you improve more quickly. Nathan and Ben discuss the implications for LSAT study. 40:27 - Staying Motivated - Listener Olivia lacks the motivation to study consistently. Ben and Nathan question whether she really wants to go to law school. 52:31 - Check Every Answer - Even if you predict the correct answer, you still have to check the wrong ones. 1:03:38 - Word of the Week - Critics agree: This week’s podcast was a success.
Am I Ready to Take the LSAT? (Ep. 464)
22-07-2024
Am I Ready to Take the LSAT? (Ep. 464)
The LSAT is a rigorous test of reading comprehension and critical reasoning. Do you understand the information on the page? And do you know what must be true on the basis of that information? Also on the show, Nathan and Ben discuss GPA addendums, supplemental essays, and law school price discrimination. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 464 on YouTube 3:24 - When Am I Ready? - Don’t register for the LSAT until you’re happy with your practice test scores. 15:43 - Logical Opposites - Are success and failure logical opposites? Does “unlikely” simply mean “not likely”? It depends. 25:01 - Two Fundamental Skills - Ben and Nathan break down two critical skills that form the foundation of LSAT mastery. 40:26 - Master’s Degree - Nathan and Ben question an anonymous listener’s decision to pursue a master’s degree. 44:41 - GPA Addendum - Nobody wants to hear excuses for your bad grades. 50:47 - Supplemental Essays - If a supplemental essay allows you to write something positive about yourself, write the essay. Otherwise, skip it. 53:19 - The LAST Is Easy - An anonymous listener embraces LSAT Demon’s intuitive approach to the LSAT. 57:49 - Price Discrimination - Many businesses employ price discrimination. Law schools are no different. Ben and Nathan urge applicants to take advantage of an unfair system. 1:08:33 - Word of the Week - Student loan policies fail to consider that schools might behave like knaves.
The "Perfect" Personal Statement (Ep. 463)
15-07-2024
The "Perfect" Personal Statement (Ep. 463)
Your LSAT and GPA are the most important parts of your law school application, but a strong personal statement can set you apart from other applicants with similar numbers. What makes for a well-crafted personal statement? This week, Nathan and Ben pull no punches as they critique a listener’s essay through the eyes of harried admissions officers. The guys also delve into Logical Reasoning prediction methods, urge a listener to fire their awful tutor, and unpack a new report that casts doubt on the golden-ticket reputation of a law degree. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 463 on YouTube 2:15 - Prediction and Review - The guys instruct LSAT Demon student Brian on how to review his mistakes. They emphasize prediction as crucial to success in Logical Reasoning. 13:09 - Awful Tutor - Nathan and Ben counsel an anonymous listener to fire their terrible LSAT tutor and to cut back on their full-time study. One to three quality hours of study per day is plenty. 23:26 - Comparative Passages - Ben and Nathan summarize their approach to comparative passages in Reading Comprehension. 28:34 - Tuition vs. Cost of Living - Listener Alex compares the cost to attend two in-state law schools. Nathan and Ben weigh Alex’s options and advise them to broaden their list of target schools. 35:26 - Earnings Outcomes - The guys discuss a Georgetown study on what lawyers are earning after four years of practice. Reuters’ Karen Sloan reports that outcomes vary wildly depending on which law school graduates attended. 45:14 - Personal Statement Review - Ben and Nathan give listener K a brutally honest appraisal of their personal statement. 1:07:25 - Word of the Week - Deposition is more than just a torturous legal exercise.
Why Did I Score Lower on Test Day? (Ep. 462)
08-07-2024
Why Did I Score Lower on Test Day? (Ep. 462)
Every LSAT score release day leaves some frustrated test takers wondering: “Why did I score so much lower than on my practice tests?” This week, Nathan and Ben discuss the number one reason why some people underperform on test day. The guys also celebrate listeners’ success on the June LSAT. They question the viability of applying to law school with a GRE score but no LSAT. And they express a wish for American law schools to adopt the more equitable tuition practices of their Canadian counterparts. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 462 on YouTube 3:21 - Keep Studying? - Listener John fell short of his goal score on the June LSAT—his last shot at a test that included Logic Games, his best section. Should he keep studying for the August test, or is it time for John to declare victory over the LSAT? 8:29 - Reapply - Listener Carlos applied to law school earlier this cycle, but he improved his LSAT score substantially in June. Ben and Nathan encourage Carlos to withdraw his applications and reapply this fall. 12:10 - Test Day Struggles - Test takers who change their approach on test day are likely to underperform. Solution? Relax and treat the official test just like any practice test. 16:18 - LSAT Writing - LSAT Writing is changing soon. But if you’ve already completed LSAT Writing, there’s no need to retake it. 17:29 - Canadian Law Schools - Nathan and Ben argue that Canadian law schools are more civilized in how they approach pricing and scholarships. Canadian applicants should still weigh the costs and benefits of paying for law school. 29:55 - Turn Off the Clock - How do you stop worrying about the clock in Reading Comprehension? Turn off the clock. Speed will come naturally when you focus on understanding one sentence at a time. 39:13 - GRE or LSAT? - An anonymous listener wonders whether their high GRE score could allow them to bypass the LSAT. However, law schools’ ABA 509 reports suggest that very few students are admitted without LSAT scores. 45:31 - Letters of Recommendation - Some older applicants struggle to acquire academic letters of recommendation. Nathan and Ben suggest some alternatives. 49:42 - Tips from a Departing Demon - “I got so much from reviewing missed questions that I started reviewing correct ones also, which I believe enhanced my learning.” 52:24 - Words of the Week - The doddering professor developed a mercurial temper as he fell further out of touch with his young students.
The LSAT Makes Perfect Sense (Ep. 461)
01-07-2024
The LSAT Makes Perfect Sense (Ep. 461)
There is no second best on the LSAT. On every question, one answer is definitely right, and four answers are definitely wrong. This week, Nathan and Ben discuss why a no-nonsense mindset is vital to LSAT success. Later, the guys compare lawyers to professional students. They question the value of law school consultants. And they explain why nothing on your law school application will make up for a low LSAT score. Study with our Free Plan Download our iOS app Watch Episode 461 on YouTube 5:17 - No BS - An anonymous listener jokes that the LSAT is a “BS test.” 17:00 - Chasing Perfection - The guys warn listener Jonah that his quest for a perfect score might be hurting his accuracy. They instruct Jonah to slow down and focus on one question at a time. 21:33 - Free Yourself - Ben and Nathan share their most powerful advice for overcoming LSAT anxiety: forget your timeline. 29:43 - Professional Students - Listener Daniel asks how to improve on science passages in Reading Comprehension. Nathan and Ben challenge Daniel to embrace the life of a professional student. 35:39 - Law School or New Job? - Ben and Nathan advise listener Katherine to stay flexible with her law school plans. 40:52 - Law School Consultants - Nathan and Ben weigh the costs and benefits of working with a law school consultant. They suggest LSAT Demon’s upcoming admissions course as a cost-effective alternative. 44:47 - Character & Fitness - Ben and Nathan prepare an anonymous listener to start jumping through the hoops of character and fitness disclosures. 49:43 - Is the LSAT King? - Yes. 56:40 - Word of the Week - Avoid student debt and its concomitant headaches.
Are Your Reviewing Properly? (Ep. 459)
17-06-2024
Are Your Reviewing Properly? (Ep. 459)
Some LSAT students think that more time studying equals faster improvement. But the equation isn’t that simple. This week, Nathan and Ben advocate a less-is-more approach to LSAT study, centered on carefully reviewing one mistake at a time. The guys also discuss lawyers’ work-life balance, highlighting in Reading Comprehension, and the importance of an applicant’s undergraduate major in law school admissions. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 459 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 1:41 - Quality Over Quantity - Ben and Nathan encourage an anonymous listener not to give up on LSAT study. They emphasize the importance of thoroughly reviewing mistakes over drilling a high volume of questions. 9:44 - Work-Life Balance - The legal profession is notorious for its lopsided work-life balance. Are there any lawyer jobs that offer a more reasonable quality of life? 15:27 - Highlighting in RC - Listener Alex proposes a strategy for highlighting key words in Reading Comprehension. Nathan and Ben worry that highlighting might be a crutch for not reading carefully. 23:38 - RC Plateau - Ben and Nathan advise listener Nick to ditch his complicated strategies for Reading Comprehension and to practice breaking down complex sentences into digestible chunks. 34:10 - Undergrad Major - An applicant’s undergraduate major generally has little impact on their law school admissions outcomes. 38:01 - Question Types - There’s no such thing as mastering a question type. Nathan and Ben instruct listener Manan to focus on correcting individual mistakes rather than analyzing trends in practice test scores. 47:19 - Accommodations - Students with approved testing accommodations should practice with those same accommodations. 51:12 - Tips from a Departing Demon - LSAT Demon student Dylan believes that “improvement isn't made when doing questions, but rather carefully reviewing every single question you get wrong.” 53:10 - Word of the Week - Avoid paying for law school.
The Cost of Applying Late (Ep. 458)
10-06-2024
The Cost of Applying Late (Ep. 458)
How important is it to apply early? According to a recent study published in the University of Chicago Journal of Law and Economics, “an application delay of 100 days is associated with a drop in the probability of admission of around 8.5 percentage points—a disadvantage comparable to lowering the applicant’s undergraduate GPA by .26 or LSAT score by 2.1 points.” Ben and Nathan crunch the numbers and double down on their advice: apply early, but steer clear of “early decision” programs. The guys also say goodbye to the logic games, preview the new format for LSAT Writing, and provide an update on the curious case of Campbell Law. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 458 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 0:37 - So Long, LG - The June LSAT is done, and so is LSAT Analytical Reasoning. Nathan and Ben bid farewell to the logic games and reflect on why they loved them. 4:56 - New LSAT Writing - LSAC will debut the new format for LSAT Writing on July 30, 2024. Ben and Nathan preview the changes and invite listeners to share their own responses to LSAC’s sample prompt. Submit your writing sample to help@thinkinglsat.com for a chance to have it featured on the show. 16:02 - Campbell 509 Update - In Ep. 451, the guys discovered some puzzling scholarship data on the ABA 509 report for Campbell Law School. LSAT Demon team members reached out to the school, and Campbell has now corrected the mistake. 22:38 - International GPA - Listener Nafosat worries that her international transcript might place her at a disadvantage in law school admissions. The guys discuss how LSAC evaluates international transcripts. 26:04 - Application Timing - Nathan and Ben share the highlights from a recent study on law school application timing. TL;DR? “Applications submitted earlier enjoy a considerable advantage relative to later applications.” 1:00:21 - Remunerative Business - Investor Charlie Munger explains why he didn’t become a lawyer: a lawyer’s most lucrative clients are often “grossly defective people.” 1:04:01 - Words of the Week - Dispute unproven conclusions. Reject bad reasoning.
Don't Become a Lawyer for the Prestige (Ep. 457)
03-06-2024
Don't Become a Lawyer for the Prestige (Ep. 457)
Why do you want to become a lawyer? If you’re chasing prestige, then you might want to reconsider. This week, Ben and Nathan critique several common but misguided reasons people give for wanting to become lawyers. Later, the guys reveal the key to getting faster on the LSAT. They counsel a waitlist-bound applicant to reapply next cycle. And they discuss whether the loss of LG will change the way the LSAT is scored. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 457 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 4:03 - Arguments Against Law School - An anonymous listener seeks reasons not to go to law school. Nathan and Ben ask Anonymous: What’s wrong with your current job? 10:28 - Why Become a Lawyer? - The guys discuss several bad reasons—and one good reason—to become a lawyer. 22:06 - Score Plateau - Listener Cole has embraced the Demon’s accuracy-first approach. Now how does he improve his speed? Nathan and Ben instruct Cole to start eliminating wrong answers more quickly. 35:04 - Score Decrease - We all have off days. Ben and Nathan tell listener Isabelle not to fret over a temporary decrease in her LSAT Demon dashboard rating. 41:19 - LR Approach - The guys find a serious flaw in listener Serena’s approach to Logical Reasoning. “That makes sense” is rarely an appropriate reaction to arguments in LR. 50:30 - 20 Points in 3 Months? - You don’t need to pick your test dates months in advance. Just keep practicing and register when you’re ready. 57:19 - Waitlist Hell - An anonymous listener weighs two disappointing offers of admission. The guys push for a third option: retake and reapply. 1:10:26 - Testing Limits - Nathan and Ben explain LSAC’s limits for retaking the LSAT. 1:14:27 - Scoring Scale Changes? - Listener Aden speculates that LSAC will soon change how it scores the LSAT. Whatever happens, Ben and Nathan see no reason for students to change their approach to the test. 1:20:47 - Word of the Week - Law school pricing engenders disgust.
Is the LSAT Getting Harder? (Ep. 455)
20-05-2024
Is the LSAT Getting Harder? (Ep. 455)
LSAT scores are on the rise. The total number of applicants scoring 170 or higher has more than doubled since 2015. This week, Ben and Nathan weigh in on what’s driving this trend and whether LSAC might make the test more difficult in response. Later, the guys discuss how much time they spend reading RC passages. They advise listeners not to apply early decision. And they help a student move on from a disappointing April LSAT. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 455 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 3:30 - June or August? - An anonymous listener who’s strong in Logic Games asks if they should take the test in June or wait until they’ve improved in LR and RC. Nathan and Ben caution listeners not to rush into law school with a mediocre LSAT score. 8:35 - Is the LSAT Getting Harder? - Will LSAC make the LSAT more difficult because of the increasing number of high scores? Ben and Nathan advise students to focus on fixing their current mistakes before worrying about hypotheticals. 14:28 - Accommodations - In the past decade, Nathan and Ben haven’t heard of LSAC denying accommodations to someone who needed them. But they have heard of LSAC granting extra time to people who don’t really need it. 27:29 - RC Timing - Ben and Nathan discuss how much time LSAT students should spend reading RC passages before moving on to the questions. 33:15 - Early Decision - The guys double down on their advice not to apply early decision. And they discuss why law school scholarships are nothing more than price discrimination. 50:58 - Bouncing Back from April - Listener Ella worries about “risking” another official attempt in August if she underperforms in June. Nathan and Ben encourage Ella to take the LSAT as many times as necessary and to treat the official test like any other practice test. 59:23 - Law School Doesn’t Prepare - Here’s some unsurprising news: Law school failed to prepare 45% of junior associates for practice. 1:03:01 - Word of the Week - “Their space-annihilating concupiscence seemed centered on mentholated smoke alone.”
Five Misguided 1L Study Tips (Angela Vorpahl) (Ep. 454)
13-05-2024
Five Misguided 1L Study Tips (Angela Vorpahl) (Ep. 454)
1L strategy coach Angela Vorpahl returns to Thinking LSAT to discuss five common but misguided pieces of advice for incoming law students. She explains why these conventional 1L strategies fall short and suggests more effective alternatives. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 454 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 3:08 - Class Prep vs. Exam Prep - Law professors insist that students should thoroughly read each assigned case. But reading every line of every case takes a huge amount of time. Angela advises students to invest their time in study methods that have a greater impact on their final grade. 20:15 - Note-Taking Strategies - Research suggests that students who take notes by hand might retain more information than students who type their notes. But for Angela’s preferred method of note-taking, handwriting notes simply isn’t fast enough. 33:05 - Study Supplements - Some law school traditionalists vilify study supplements like hornbooks, and they label students who use them as lazy. But these supplements aren’t shortcuts; they’re vital study tools—especially when professors routinely fail to teach the material in a straightforward way. 46:33 - Outlining Is Not Enough - A good outline may be necessary to succeed on law school exams, but it’s not sufficient. Angela describes the extra study step that students should take after outlining. 56:21 - IRAC - “Issue, Rule, Application, and Conclusion” (IRAC) has long been the popular structure for legal analysis in law school. But Angela argues that IRAC misses the most important part of how students score points on final exams. 1:07:28 - Intermediate Conclusions - Don’t worry too much about identifying intermediate conclusions. Focus on what the argument says. 1:16:26 - Academic Suspension - Nathan and Ben follow up on last week’s story about an applicant who wants to remove an academic suspension from their transcript. 1:18:46 - Word of the Week - Halo Top is execrable.
Overcoming a Score Plateau (Ep. 453)
06-05-2024
Overcoming a Score Plateau (Ep. 453)
Ben and producer Erik team up to offer guidance on overcoming a score plateau. One key tip: Don’t fixate on your practice test scores. Later, Ben and Erik debunk the rumor that applicants hurt their admissions chances when they withdraw and reapply. They examine law schools’ employment outcome disclosures. And they discuss what it means to overthink the correct answer—and how to stop. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 453 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 5:52 - Score Plateau - How do you break out of a score plateau? Stop worrying about your score, and focus on fixing individual mistakes. 16:20 - Downside to Reapplying? - An anonymous listener applied late in the cycle and received disappointing scholarship offers. Will law schools treat Anonymous unfavorably for declining these offers and reapplying next cycle? 22:07 - Judicial Clerkships - Must listener Alex attend a highly ranked law school to obtain a judicial clerkship? Erik and Ben investigate schools’ employment outcomes at abarequireddisclosures.org. 29:50 - Overthinking - We’re more likely to overthink answer choices when we rush our reading of the passage and fail to predict the answer. Avoid this trap by spending more time unpacking the passage before reading the answer choices. 36:50 - Group Classes vs. Solo Study - Ben and Erik suggest that listener Hannah try a month of Demon Live in preparation for the June LSAT. 39:37 - GPA Addendum - Erik and Ben help an anonymous listener write a GPA addendum to address an anomalous semester of bad grades. 40:57 - Transcript Error - Ben and Erik encourage an anonymous listener to be persistent in trying to remove an error on their undergraduate transcript. 44:24 - LSAT Survey - LSAT Demon now appears in the post-LSAT survey. Thanks to LSAT Demon student Laura for sharing the news. 46:23 - Words of the Week - Misers ascribe no merit to spending money.
AI and the Future of Law School (Nick Hafen) (Ep. 452)
29-04-2024
AI and the Future of Law School (Nick Hafen) (Ep. 452)
Ben and Nathan chat with Nick Hafen, the Head of Legal Technology Education at BYU Law. They discuss what law students should know about leveraging generative AI tools like ChatGPT in law school and beyond. The guys also review a tip for managing test anxiety, and they explain why they don’t diagram in Logical Reasoning. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 452 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 0:43 - Generative AI - Nick explains some generative AI basics that law students should know. The guys discuss how the technology might impact lawyers’ jobs. 8:57 - AI and Law School - Law schools are still deciding how to incorporate AI into their curriculums. Students shouldn’t rely on their professors to teach them everything they need to know. 17:39 - Getting Started with AI - Nick suggests a simple Google search to start learning about generative AI. Ben and Nathan encourage listeners to experiment with new use cases. 24:49 - Nick’s Career - Nick outlines his career path from big law, to solo practice, to working at BYU. 32:19 - BYU Admissions - The guys look at BYU’s admissions and scholarship data using LSAT Demon’s Tuition Roll Call. 39:29 - Nick’s LSAT Story - Nick shares the story of his nerve-racking experience taking the LSAT in person while studying abroad. 43:44 - Word of the Week - Whoever invented Halo Top should be defenestrated. 46:17 - Pearls vs. Turds - Listener Henry provides a tip for boosting confidence on test day. 52:25 - Don’t Diagram in LR - Nathan and Ben explain why diagramming conditional statements in Logical Reasoning can be more harmful than helpful.
Who Pays Tuition at Campbell Law School? (Ep. 451)
22-04-2024
Who Pays Tuition at Campbell Law School? (Ep. 451)
Many law students pay nowhere near full tuition. Some pay no tuition at all. Law schools don’t offer reduced or waived tuition fees out of generosity—it’s a calculated business strategy. But this week, Nathan and Ben discover a law school whose outlandish scholarship numbers seem to defy business sense. The guys also discuss the new US News law school rankings, help listeners choose between law schools, and advise students to keep their study schedules simple. LSAT Demon LSAT Demon iOS App LSAT Demon Daily Watch Episode 451 Thinking LSAT YouTube LSAT Demon YouTube 4:14 - Law School Rankings - US News just released its 2024 law school rankings. While the rankings have changed, their practical value hasn’t. They still provide poor justification for choosing one law school over another. 10:27 - Picking a Law School - Ben and Nathan help two listeners decide between offers of admission. The choice largely depends on answering a single question: “What do you want to do?” 33:48 - Bouncing Back - Listener Tyler stumbled during his April test. Nathan and Ben encourage him to learn from his mistake and to stay the course as he prepares for the June LSAT. 38:48 - There Is No Curve - How will the removal of Logic Games affect the curve on the August LSAT? Easy question. It won’t, because LSAT scores aren’t curved. 45:30 - Study Schedule - An anonymous listener with lots of time to study asks how to structure their study schedule. Ben and Nathan give a surprising answer: It doesn’t matter. 50:28 - Who Pays at Campbell? - The guys browse the scholarship estimator for law schools friendly to splitters with low GPAs. They find Campbell University School of Law, which reports that a staggering 94% of its students receive full-ride scholarships. 1:08:50 - Waitlist to Full Ride - LSAT Demon student Jason just accepted a full-ride scholarship to Texas A&M after being waitlisted by the school earlier this year. 1:13:52 - Word of the Week - We vituperate predatory law schools.