Summary Managing end-to-end data flows becomes complex and unwieldy as the scale of data and its variety of applications in an organization grows. Part of this complexity is due to the transformation and orchestration of data living in disparate systems. The team at Upsolver is taking aim at this problem with the latest iteration of their platform in the form of SQLake. In this episode Ori Rafael explains how they are automating the creation and scheduling of orchestration flows and their related transforations in a unified SQL interface. Announcements Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management Data and analytics leaders, 2023 is your year to sharpen your leadership skills, refine your strategies and lead with purpose. Join your peers at Gartner Data & Analytics Summit, March 20 – 22 in Orlando, FL for 3 days of expert guidance, peer networking and collaboration. Listeners can save $375 off standard rates with code GARTNERDA. 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Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Ori Rafael about the SQLake feature for the Upsolver platform that automatically generates pipelines from your queries Interview Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what the SQLake product is and the story behind it? What is the core problem that you are trying to solve? What are some of the anti-patterns that you have seen teams adopt when designing and implementing DAGs in a tool such as Airlow? What are the benefits of merging the logic for transformation and orchestration into the same interface and dialect (SQL)? Can you describe the technical implementation of the SQLake feature? What does the workflow look like for designing and deploying pipelines in SQLake? What are the opportunities for using utilities such as dbt for managing logical complexity as the number of pipelines scales? SQL has traditionally been challenging to compose. How did that factor into your design process for how to structure the dialect extensions for job scheduling? What are some of the complexities that you have had to address in your orchestration system to be able to manage timeliness of operations as volume and complexity of the data scales? What are some of the edge cases that you have had to provide escape hatches for? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen SQLake used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on SQLake? When is SQLake the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of SQLake? Contact Info LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ori-rafael-91723344/) Parting Question From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today? Closing Announcements Thank you for listening! Don't forget to check out our other shows. 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To help other people find the show please leave a review on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/data-engineering-podcast/id1193040557) and tell your friends and co-workers Links Upsolver (https://www.upsolver.com/) Podcast Episode (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com/upsolver-streaming-data-integration-episode-240/) SQLake (https://docs.upsolver.com/sqlake/) Airflow (https://airflow.apache.org/) Dagster (https://dagster.io/) Podcast Episode (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com/dagster-software-defined-assets-data-orchestration-episode-309/) Prefect (https://www.prefect.io/) Podcast Episode (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com/prefect-workflow-engine-episode-86/) Flyte (https://flyte.org/) Podcast Episode (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com/flyte-data-orchestration-machine-learning-episode-291/) GitHub Actions (https://github.com/features/actions) dbt (https://www.getdbt.com/) Podcast Episode (https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com/dbt-data-analytics-episode-81/) PartiQL (https://partiql.org/) The intro and outro music is from The Hug (http://freemusicarchive.org/music/The_Freak_Fandango_Orchestra/Love_death_and_a_drunken_monkey/04_-_The_Hug) by The Freak Fandango Orchestra (http://freemusicarchive.org/music/The_Freak_Fandango_Orchestra/) / CC BY-SA (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/)