Dale and Brian digest another two home defeats as Manchester United suffer humiliation in the Manchester derby and crash out of the Carabao Cup a few days later. *Includes a matchday bonus from the derby as Dale catches up with Jason and Matt in Manchester. Then Brian helps reflect on what were two terrible results for Ten Hag, with reports now suggesting that United are considering other managers. We then look at where the rot begins - from top to bottom - and how the manager is on a road to nowhere with the current ownership. Things need to change on and off the pitch. That and more on Strettycast 177! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices