What does it take to move an existing church into effective disciple making? Daren and Tim discuss some of the specific things that church leaders need consider. Warning: This episode contains one of Daren’s mini rants.

Learn more about Tim at https://imakedisciples.com
See Tim's book Turning Over a New Leaf on Amazon: https://www.amazon.ca/Turning-Over-Leaf-Timothy-Beadle-ebook/dp/B09455BG2V

Learn more about Daren at https://darenwride.com and https://12church.com
See his book DNA of a Christ Follower on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3BtnvIx