Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more. Theme Music: Audio Network read less

Murdaugh Adjacent? | The Death of Stephen Smith
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Murdaugh Adjacent? | The Death of Stephen Smith
Stephen Smith died mysteriously in 2015 in South Carolina. Though his death was initially ruled a hit-and-run, it has more recently gained attention following the 2021 murders of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh, which lead to the reopening of his case two years ago. The Murdaugh family was mentioned in the initial investigation, but no charges were filed. Smith was found dead with a large gash on his forehead, a partially dislocated shoulder, and cuts and bruises on his hand. Authorities initially thought Smith had been shot, but no bullet or fragments were found. In March 2023, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED) officially ruled Smith's death as a homicide. In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and reporter Dave Mack discuss what types of injuries one sustains when hit by a vehicle, why Joe and Dave think the perpetrator was likely a local, exhumation, mirror strikes, and more.    Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 1:26 - Encountering unexpected road obstacles 4:30 - Open homicide with lots to still investigate 6:45 - What happens when you call 911? 11:10 - Misidentifying a gunshot wound as a hit and run 13:00 - Joe describes types of injuries and evidence left on a vehicle when it strikes a pedestrian 20:40 -  Why Joe and Dave think the perpetrator was likely a local 22:10 - Besides head trauma, what other physical damage would you expect to see in a hit and run case? 23:40 - What is a mirror strike? 27:25 -  Exhumation and its challenges 34:00 - The importance of thorough examination including high-quality imaging and analysis  38:25 - OutroSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
First in Recorded History: The Autopsy of Julius Caesar | A Body Bags Special Report
14-03-2023
First in Recorded History: The Autopsy of Julius Caesar | A Body Bags Special Report
On March 15th in 44 B.C. Julius Caesar, the Roman dictator, was assassinated by a group of senators who stabbed him 23 times during a Senate meeting. The senators claimed Caesar's concentration of power threatened the Roman Republic. However, their efforts to restore the Republic failed, and the aftermath led to a civil war and the rise of the Roman Empire. His death also led to the earliest recorded autopsy in history. In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss the purpose of autopsies, Caesar's life, and leadership, the details of how he was attacked, the injuries sustained, and how this event shaped the course of history.    Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 1:12 - Background and overview  2:35 - What’s the purpose of an autopsy? 4:05 - Caesar’s life and work as a leader 7:15 - The day of Caesar’s assassination 9:15 - How the attack happened 10:50 - Caesar’s autopsy 13:20 - After someone is stabbed multiple times does blood keep flowing or will it eventually stop after a few hours? 17:10 - Could the doctor have attributed Caesar’s death to blood loss?  20:10 - What was the assassination plan for Caesar? Were there other injuries and what was Caesar's condition afterward? 22:10 - Where was the autopsy done? 23:40 - The start of 3D modeling 25:30 - How this event shaped history 27:05 -  OutroSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Pleading Guilty to Brutality - The Heartbreaking Story of Tristyn Bailey
14-02-2023
Pleading Guilty to Brutality - The Heartbreaking Story of Tristyn Bailey
On May 9th, 2021, in St. John’s County, Florida, 13 year old Tristyn Bailey goes missing. She was last seen by her sister just after midnight and is reported missing that morning by her family. The police and community begin searching for her that same day and at 6 p.m. that night her body is found by a neighbor in a remote area in the woods. She had been stabbed more than 100 times.  In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host  Dave Mack discuss the timeline of this case, how police track and identify suspects using surveillance footage, the different kinds of stab wounds, the importance of taking photographs of potential suspects, and more.    Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 1:32 - Background and overview of case 3:40 - Thrill killing 6:20 - The timeline  8:50 - How can investigators get blood out of something that’s already been washed? 13:30 - How do police identify and track a suspect from footage used for evidence? 16:00 - Mother’s day and siblings not finding Tristyn in her bedroom 17:40 - Different kinds of stab wounds 23:00 - Presenting medical evidence in court and defensive vs. non-defensive wounds 26:10 - Tristyn attempting to fight off the killer 27:20 - Importance of taking photographs of potential suspects and all parts of their body 30:40 - Aiden Fucci 32:50 - Aspects of premeditation and Fucci’s mother’s awareness of the crime 34:50 - Fucci pleading not guilty, his story constantly changing, and then finally pleading guilty 36:30 - Wrap-up and outroSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Idaho Student Murders Part 3 | Reviewing The Affidavit  - Case Updates
10-01-2023
Idaho Student Murders Part 3 | Reviewing The Affidavit - Case Updates
Four University of Idaho students are brutally murdered in their home in Moscow, Idaho on November 13th, 2022. Police suspect that the murder took place between 3am-4 and their bodies are discovered by a friend that same morning around noon. Investigators believe that the murder weapon was a knife of some sort. More leads have been uncovered by police and investigators in the past weeks and the hunt is still on for a primary suspect. In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard continue discussing the details of this unfolding case following the 19 page affidavit detailing evidence collected so far. Joe and Jackie discuss moving evidence as big as a mattress, the KA-BAR knife sheath and matching up knife inflicted wounds, history of KA-BAR knives, and more. Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 1:45 - Reopening the details of this case - 19-page affidavit dropped over the weekend. 2:30 - Multiple forms of evidence have been recovered including but not limited to  DNA, Cell Phone, CCTV Footage, Footprints, and the Knife Sheath. 4:00 -  What is Touch DNA? 7:32 - Has Blood evidence been found? 9:50 - What volume of DNA is needed to match a suspect from the evidence collected so far? 12:35 - Differentiation in wounds on the victim's bodies. 16:55 - Examining the mattresses that the bodies were found on, what they can reveal to a forensic expert. 21:45 - Proper handling of a piece of evidence as big as a person's mattress. 27:04 -  How do you match up wounds on a victim to a knife that may have been used to inflict those injuries? A KA-BAR knife sheath was found discarded on one of the victim's beds. 31:47 -  Before an Autopsy is conducted you perform an AP and a Lateral X-ray. 35:20 - History of the KA-BAR name and model. 37:07 - A footprint was discovered outside the surviving roommate's door. Investigators matched up the print to a Van skate shoe. 40:39 -  footprints can tell you about how a person walks, what part of the foot they walk on, and the persons gait. 42:00 - OutroSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Autopsy Episode  - A Life Among the Dead
03-01-2023
The Autopsy Episode - A Life Among the Dead
When Joseph Scott Morgan was on his first date with his wife Kim she asked him what he did for a living. When he responded by telling her that he worked for the Medical Examiner, essentially the coroner, examining dead bodies and performing autopsies, she looked at him with a puzzled expression… We all have aspects of our lives that are unusual, whether it’s our family, our habits, or our jobs. But when we do these things every day, they become so normal to us that we don’t even question them anymore.  In this special episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard go into depth on the touchstone of forensic death investigation: autopsies. They discuss what an autopsy is, who can order one, the different kinds, and how Joe ended up in this unique profession.   Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 2:07 - What is an autopsy? 4:10 - Who determines when an autopsy is done? Why would you not do one? 7:40 - Can an autopsy be done even if the family doesn’t want it? 9:58 - Gloria Satterfield’s cause of death 12:45 - Are there different kinds of autopsies? 17:55 - Joe’s experience in the autopsy room 18:56 - What is a full autopsy and how long does it take?  26:50 - Can certain autopsies be prioritized? 30:22 - Is an autopsy considered surgery? 34:05 - How did Joseph Scott end up working in a morgue? 38:50 - Seeing bodies in all different kinds of states 41:40 - How does Joe’s family deal with his line of work? 43:45 - Joe’s take on his career 45:21 - Wrap upSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Idaho College Murders Continued -  Updates and Analysis
12-12-2022
The Idaho College Murders Continued - Updates and Analysis
Four University of Idaho students are brutally murdered in their home in Moscow, Idaho on November 13th, 2022. Police suspect that the murders occurred between 3am-4 and their bodies were discovered by a friend that same morning around noon. Investigators believe that the murder weapon was a knife of some sort. More leads have been uncovered by police and investigators in the past weeks and the hunt is still on for a primary suspect. In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard continue discussing the details of this unfolding case, the DNA evidence that has been collected, details on a vehicle of interest, the odd state of lockdown at the scene of the crime, and more. Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 0:55 - Reopening the details of this  case 1:55 - Description of the vehicle of interest that police are looking for. 7:22 - How do you properly process a vehicle that may be connected to a crime? 10:55 - The volume of evidence collected so far will take some time to go through properly. 12:49 - Types of biological evidence, Blood and DNA, collected on site 16:39 - Other possible biological evidence at the scene 19:43 - How many tests will be run on these individual pieces of evidence? 23:13 - Will running tests on evidence destroy the sample you have collected? 26:04 - Confusion on the details of the weapon involved in the stabbings 29:12 - Joe’s experience with grieving families 31:20 - Items returned to families immediately lose their evidentiary value in most cases 34:56 - Covering your bases as a Medical Legal Death investigator when thinking about the courtroom deposition of your findings. 36:38 - The importance of contextual location 39:56 - Joe Scott’s position on the importance of doing things in the proper order 41:23 - OutroSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mariticide in Ohio - The Case of Dr. Christopher Osborn
06-12-2022
Mariticide in Ohio - The Case of Dr. Christopher Osborn
Dr. Christopher Osborn is found and pronounced dead in his home in Dublin, Ohio on July 18th, 2018, just after 7:30 a.m.  He had been shot in the head three times in his sleep. His wife, Holli Osborn, drunkenly calls her father to tell him that her husband is dead. Her father calls the police and shortly thereafter they arrive at the house. After finding two guns next to the bed and seeing the state of Ms. Osborn, they take her into custody and eventually charge her with the murder of her husband.  In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the state Dr. Osborn was murdered in, gunshot residue, how to assess a crime scene after its been altered, how the location of where Holli’s DNA was found eventually proved she was the perpetrator, and more.   Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 1:25 - Background and overview of the case 2:43 - Evidence from the bed 6:23 - In a case like this, what evidence do you start with first? 9:28 - Who arrived at the scene first? 12:20 - Assessing the crime scene after it's been damaged 15:40 - How to tell the difference between something that was part of the crime vs. caused by first responders when they arrived at the scene 19:40 - Does the amount of blood depend on how many times you were shot or where you were shot? 29:20 - Does Dr. Osborn’s physical state (sleeping) factor into his body’s reaction when he was shot? 34:40 - Gunshot residue 40:43 - Are all gun powders the same? 42:30 - Distribution of gunpowder 47:00 - “10 particles” 49:35 - Holli’s DNA being found on the gun and how it was proven that she was the perpetrator 50:50 - OutroSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Four Dead Students in  Moscow, Idaho - The Search for a Killer Continues
22-11-2022
Four Dead Students in Moscow, Idaho - The Search for a Killer Continues
Four University of Idaho students are brutally murdered in their home in Moscow, Idaho on November 13th, 2022. Police suspect that the murder took place between 3am-4 and their bodies are discovered by a friend that same morning around noon. Investigators believe that the murder weapon was a knife of some sort. This case is still unfolding.  In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard discuss the gruesome nature of this case, the murder weapon, making sense of the chaos of the crime scene, what police are looking for in the surveillance footage, and more.   Show Notes: 0:00 - Intro 1:25 - Background and overview of case 2:26 - The police not knowing what they were walking into 6:20 - Side door being the point of entry 8:30 - Signs of forced entry, the window, and how it could have been pried open 10:07 - Light sources 12:30 - Two roommates who survived, who was stabbed first, the murder weapon 18:26 - The style of weapon suggests that this was a targeted attack 21:34 - How do we tell who was stabbed first and what are we going to find on the other victims? 26:38 - Making sense of the chaos 28:05 - Co-mingling of blood, actions of the perpetrator, finding the knife 31:54 - Other injuries to expect in this case 35:38 - What exactly are the police looking for in the video surveillance footage? 40:38 - OutroSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.