Ben Kirby is the founder of PreachersNSneakers, an Instagram account and book, that both ask, “how much is too much” to spend when it comes to presenting a compelling image of the church and it’s leaders? Kirby's got some answers and some solutions.

Solvable is produced by David Zha, Jocelyn Frank, Sachar Mathias and Mia Lobel.

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