The Thick of It with Jo Gale

Jo Gale

The Thick Of It, is a podcast where a diverse range of topics, orbiting around a central theme of body politics and wellness are explored though conversation. Jo and her weekly guests engage in a wide range of topics, from Diet-culture, Trauma informed practices, identity politics and much much more. read less

Phoebe Taylor : Creative Business Beyond the Binary
16-03-2022
Phoebe Taylor : Creative Business Beyond the Binary
This week on the thick of it, I have a great conversation with my friend Phoebe Taylor. Phoebe Taylor is an artist, mindful mover, community maker and creative director of Okay Shoe. Phoebe and I met through the movement community here in Hamilton and have connected in other ways as well. In this conversation we talk about how our business has shifted and evolved during the pandemic, about how creativity threads thought our work and also about reality TV. This conversation is playful and especially great for folks out there who are entrepreneurs, navigating change in their business.In her own words: Phoebe utilizes her multi-hyphenate skills and interests to explore the intersection of art, mindfulness, intuition and movement. She creates space to explore these ideas through art-making, facilitating creative community-play, creative coaching and teaching movement. They create work for the big feelers and collective thinkers, and aim to inspire creativity in us all. Phoebe dreams of liberation for all and a safe and loving world for every human to express their inner weirdo freely and that one great rock show can change the world. I really enjoyed chatting with Phoebe! You can check out all the things Phoebe is up to on her websites: phoebetaylor.ca  and on her Instagram.I kind of casually mentioned that this MIGHT be the last season of the thick of it in this episode. I plan on taking a break from podcasting for an indeterminate amount of time, but I’m always open to new opportunities. If you have any of those, don’t feel shy!See you next time, with the FINAL episode of season 1 of, the Thick of it!As always, my inbox is open to any comments, feedback or suggestions, drop me a line jogalemovement@gmail.com Want to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamontJo
Danielle Hitchcock Welsh : Me, Myself and Lymphoma
02-03-2022
Danielle Hitchcock Welsh : Me, Myself and Lymphoma
Today on the show, I have a really special conversation with my friend Danielle. This conversation is inspired by Danielle’s blog, Me, Myself and my Lymphoma, which is a detail of her journey through Cancer, Treatment and now Remission during a pandemic. This is a conversation that touches on subjects that I think most of us can relate to. Danielle tells her story with humour (and swears) and humanized the experience of  being the parent to young Children while treating Cancer.A little about Danielle: Danielle Hitchcock is a multidisciplinary graphic designer and the Principal + Creative Director of Twin Design in Hamilton, ON. A former dancer, she found her way to Yoga in the mid-2000s and would later complete teacher training programs in both Yoga and Pilates. She is a mother, wife, daughter, sister, friend, life-long learner and cancer survivor — not necessarily in that order. She writes about her experience with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma (and its aftermath) at memyselfandlymphoma.com. When she’s not writing, designing or moving, you can find her parenting her 6-year-old twins. You can find out more about Danielle's design work here.As always, please rate, subscribe, share etc etc etc this little project of love as much as you can! I really appreciate it so much!As always, my inbox is open to any comments, feedback or suggestions, drop me a line jogalemovement@gmail.com Want to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamontJo
Shanèl Dear : Not Here For Your Diversity Clout
09-02-2022
Shanèl Dear : Not Here For Your Diversity Clout
Welcome to The Thick of It this week. Glad to have you. I’m super excited to have Shanèl Dear on the show today. Shanèl is a fellow movement teacher, but also a speaker and activist based in Toronto, but currently in Montreal. She has been practicing and teaching yoga for over 3 years, she teaches from an anti colonial, body liberating lens and hopes to make class accessible to all bodies and abilities. Her work always centres racialized folk and she tries to create a brave space for all participants to show up their most authentic self. Shanèl is passionate about social justice and a huge advocate for liberating folk from current oppressive realities.I really love the candour in our conversation today. I think Shanèl is a great voice because she shares with so much truth and levity. Shanèl and I have spoken on panels together before, and also Shanèl was one of my guests on the IGTV chat series I hosted last winter.Our conversation today loops around a few themes including tokenism in the wellness industry, how the pandemic and virtual has effected the business of yoga and fitness spaces and about how folks can really show up during times like Black history month and do better when it comes to anti-racism.You can find Shanel on Instagram hereIf you wanted to check out the Move with Me event, or Shanèl’s class find tickets here.As always, my inbox is open to any comments, feedback or suggestions, drop me a line jogalemovement@gmail.com Want to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamontJo
Fran Allen : Finding Fun in Food
26-01-2022
Fran Allen : Finding Fun in Food
Hi friends, welcome to the podcast this week. I’m so excited to have  my friend and colleague non-diet nutritionist and recipe developer Fran Allen on The Thick of It today. Our conversation today circles around topics familiar to this show like intuitive eating, body image challenges and creating community for bigger bodies: but Fran and I really dive into our experiences with pregnancy and parenthood on this one. I joked with Fran that this becomes a bit of a “mom talk” but I think there is a lot of this conversation that may be helpful for non parent folks out there who may be feeling burnt out right now. A bit about Fran :Fran Allen, CNP is a non-diet certified Holistic Nutritionist based in Toronto. Her work focuses on intuitive eating, achieving health at every size and dismantling diet culture. She uses her years of professional culinary experience to make meals fun, easy and satisfying. She’s currently taking maternity leave to care for her young daughter. I hope you enjoy this conversation, it really has some great moments of candour between two mamas and entrepreneurs trying to bring little people up in these weird times!You can find more about her work at http://hellofran.co and follow her on Instagram @hello.fran.allen for daily recipes and inspiration. If you are enjoying the show, I would love for you to give it a rating on Apple Podcasts and now you can rate on Spotify podcasts as well! It would mean so, so much to me! The next 4 episodes of the season, I am going to create and release with a shorter production window. I’m excited to present conversations more in real time. I’ve learned so much over this first season of podcasting and I’m curious to see where these skills take me, so thanks again for listening.As always, my inbox is open to any comments, feedback or suggestions, drop me a line jogalemovement@gmail.com Want to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamont
Jordan Carrier : Big Auntie Energy
12-01-2022
Jordan Carrier : Big Auntie Energy
This week, Jordan Carrier is on the show: and her insights and stories are truly a balm for these hard, tense days we are going though in early 2022. In this conversation we talk about: the importance of Language for Indigenous communities, her experience growing up in Saskatchewan and then moving to Hamilton, Community and Ceremony and actions people can take to be true allies to Indigenous folks in the countries they live in.A bit about Jordan in her words: Jordan Carrier a nêhiyaw-iskwêw (Plains Cree Woman), who has lived in Hamilton since 2002. Born and raised in Regina, SK and a member of Piapot First Nation. She is a mom to twin 13-year-olds Mahingan & Nikik. She is a sister, friend, daughter and community Auntie. She has a Diploma from Mohawk College in Native Community Care, Bachelor of Education in Aboriginal Adult Education from Brock University and is currently completing a second degree (Hons BA) in Indigenous Studies at McMaster University. She has worked within the Urban Indigenous Community of Hamilton for 16 years at various organizations, such as De dwa da dehs nye>s Aboriginal Health Centre, Niwasa, and Indigenous Student Services at McMaster. During the summer of 2021 Jordan worked with grassroots folks in the community to create space for grief, ceremony and learning as unmarked graves of Indigenous children were being found across the lands now known as Canada. I myself learned so much from this conversation, and I hope you do too. Interested in connecting with Jordan?Follow her on Instagram at : @mzz.j0rdanI wanted to say thank you again to Jordan for taking time to chat with me.Jordan is also a Raven Read ambassador, Raven Reads is an Indigenous subscription box that features award-winning Indigenous content and literature direct to your door step every three months. You can check that out at https://ravenreads.org/.As always, my inbox is open to any comments, feedback or suggestions, drop me a line jogalemovement@gmail.com Want to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamont
Jamie Boer : Size Inclusive Wellness Spaces
08-12-2021
Jamie Boer : Size Inclusive Wellness Spaces
Today on the show, I talk to Jamie Boer (she/her) a Massage Therapist turned entrepreneur and founder of Eastwood Wellness Company in Toronto. Eastwood is a company that focuses on making wellness size inclusive and welcoming for all bodies. We are committed to dismantling diet culture, encouraging self-care, and connecting meaningfully with our community.  We talk about what making your wellness space size inclusive looks like, our personal journeys with body image and how that is reflected in our work and Jamie's entrepreneurship journey.If you are interested in learning more about Eastwood Wellness Co,  you can visit their website at https://www.eastwoodwellnessco.com/ or visit them on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/eastwoodwellnessco/ . Stay tuned for their highly sought after Self Massage and Couples Massage workshops coming up in February! Jamie mentioned coaching with Ashley Baudin you can find them at https://www.ashleybeaudin.comHamilton locals/localish, make sure to enter the Instagram Giveaway from The Move Room: @move.room.hamont , The Good Rub @the_good_rub and Good Stuff Pots @good.stuff.potsThe giveaway closes Sunday December 12th! So get on it!I will be doing a class pass sale BOXING WEEK, for 10 and 5 class passes for my classes at The Move Room as well, so stay connected!As always, my inbox is open to any comments, feedback or suggestions, drop me a line jogalemovement@gmail.com Want to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamont
Michelle Cordeiro : No Bad Foods
01-12-2021
Michelle Cordeiro : No Bad Foods
Hey folks, welcome to The Thick of It!Today on the show I am so excited to have my chat with Michelle Cordeiro. Michelle (she/her) is a Certified Intuitive Eating Counsellor and Anti-Diet Nutritionist who is passionate about rewriting the script around food and wellness. She works from an anti-diet, Health at Every Size (HAES) and weight-neutral lens.We chat about all kinds of feelings about food, the differences between disordered eating and eating disorders and of course we discuss intuitive eating, and what that really means. This is the first interview I recorded for this podcast and I can’t imagine a warmer person to interview. Michelle is knowledgable and compassionate in the way she shares her work and own experiences in her body on the show.If you want to learn more about or work with Michelle, there are a bunch of ways you can connect with her.Visit her website at https://www.michellecordeiro.com/ or follow her on Instagram at @movewithgutsThis week Michelle is launching a 4 session group + individual coaching container, An Anti-Diet New Year. This program will set you up with the tools needed to navigate a season that might bring up old eating patterns, while empowering you into a year of finding your best flow with food. Included are two December and two January group coaching sessions, an exclusive Whatsapp group for real time support and a 1:1 session with Michelle to zero in on what you need. Challenge your inner dialogue, set boundaries with family + friends and practice finding more joy with food.No Bad Foods Membership: No Bad Foods is a virtual community that meets every week for live group coaching sessions, with a private community page and dashboard full of snackable workshops all about Intuitive Eating, body image and anti-diet nutrition. Next week, December 8th, will be my last episode before a mini pause in the season! I already have some guests lined up for 2022 and I’m super excited to broaden the ranges of topics. I’m planning to be back January 5th, when the show will switch to a fortnightly release (once every two weeks) to give each episode ( and myself) more breathing room! I’m so touched by the love and feedback I’ve received, and can’t wait to make more episodes!As always, my inbox is open to any comments, feedback or suggestions, drop me a line jogalemovement@gmail.com Want to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamont
Sarah B : Existing in Shades of Grey
24-11-2021
Sarah B : Existing in Shades of Grey
Hey, I’m so glad to have you back listening for episode 4!So a big part of this show, is that I wanted to give my guests a chance to introduce themselves. It seems like a simple thing, but I really believe giving people space to step into their own identity is so empowering. In fact, struggles with identity is something that connected myself and my guest Sarah B in such a profound way.Sarah B (she/her) is a Black  Biracial Queer community builder, maker and independent parent amongst other things. Sarah most recently has been making waves in the Hamilton Queer Community with her sold out Fruit Salad events, among all the other work she does.Today’s conversation was recorded on Federal Election Day here in Canada, so we begin our conversation candidly around national and local politics. Sarah and I also dive into our complicated relationships with race identity, being “white presenting” and talk about challenges of being mixed race. Sarah also discusses the complications of queer identity, her struggles with finding appropriate support for her mental health and why alternative spaces for 2SLGBTQIA+women & gender nonconforming folks are so important! Sarah is so cool, I can’t wait for you to hear our conversation.PSSSSST: My soft open schedule for The Move Room is open, classes running until December 16th, and then I’ll be closed over the Holiday Break, getting the studio ready for the grand opening in January. I have a fun give-away planned in December with a few other *new* Hamilton small businesses, so keep connected!Sarah’s next Fruit Salad Event on December 18th is SOLD OUT, but you can join the waitlist, and connect through Fruit Salad Hamilton on Instagram @fruitsaladhamiltoneditionhttps://www.eventbrite.com/e/happy-hour-for-lesbians-lgbtqia2-women-and-their-friends-tickets-211479489847Sarah will be at both Stuffed Holiday Market in Hamilton this weekend, and the QTBIPOC holiday night market collab with BLKOWNED Hamilton on December 4th at side door bar with her company: My Dad And Me Every Day Ornaments  (@mydadandmeeverydayornaments on Instagram)Interested in what you heard, you can connect with Sarah via Instagram in a variety of waysSarah B @sarahbarnhartthingsMixed in Hamilton @mixedinhamiltonIn this episode Sarah spoke about The Mixed Bloom Room as resource for Biracial folks with Sarah Lotus Garrett. The website for the Mixed Bloom Room is https://mixedbloomroom.com/As always, my inbox is open to any comments, feedback or suggestions, drop me a line jogalemovement@gmail.com Want to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamontStay Safe, Stay Dangerous
Christopher Bourke : Witnessing Waves of Energy Through Movement
17-11-2021
Christopher Bourke : Witnessing Waves of Energy Through Movement
Today on the show I'm sharing my conversation with Christopher Bourke. Chris is a counsellor and movement educator with 10 years of experience working in the field of community mental health.  I’m super excited to share this conversation with you as Chris and I are quite close friends, and our on mic chemistry is pretty pretty magic. Chris is a very thoughtful and genuine person, who honestly has been a rock for me since we met in 2018.In the episode today, we talk about our evolution as movement teachers, what trauma informed moving offerings can look like for facilitators and folks taking classes, dealing with overwhelm through a physical practice, and so much more.Want to know more about Chris?Check him out on the internet at https://www.movementandmentalhealth.com/On instagram at https://www.instagram.com/anchored.tides/Also mentioned in the show: Kathryn Bruni Young’s Mindful Strength Community: https://mindfulstrength.ca/And GoodBodyFeel movement studio: https://www.goodbodyfeel.com/Reminder for Hamilton local folks interested in coming to classes at The Move Room with me, to sign up for my Move Room specific mailing list! Social Media is weird, and all our Instagram accounts could go up in flame tomorrow: so let’s connect beyond the grid! Sign up hereJust another reminder that my workshop with Katie McCrindle: Coping with the new new normal takes place next week, Wednesday Nov 24th 7-9pm EDT. If you want to know more about that, GO BACK AND LISTEN TO LAST WEEK'S EPISODE, and check out my socials. The workshop is available for replay, but it will be edited to not include group discussion, so come live if you can. Get tickets hereWant to know more? Check out my stuff!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamont
Katie McCrindle : Creating Safe and Brave Spaces
10-11-2021
Katie McCrindle : Creating Safe and Brave Spaces
Today on the show, I’m so excited to have Katie McCrindle on as my guest t. Katie McCrindle (she/they) is a Body Liberation Counsellor, Registered Social Worker and Fat Activist who lives and works in Hamilton, Ontario. She identifies as fat as a way of reclaiming the word and situating herself in a political identity. She believes that every body is inherently worthy, and those whose bodies are considered “larger” deserve to proudly take up space in this society which is both overtly and insidiously fat-phobic. Katie is passionate about body/fat liberation and about creating fat community, both online and off, and believes that the body holds wisdom if you can figure out how to listen. Katie loves weird dancing, being in nature, and cuddling with her cat, Luna.Katie and I met in 2019 and began working collaboratively to form the Be Abundant workshop series, which was a size exclusive space for folks in bigger/ps/fat bodies. For us, creating that network and community was a big way for us to step into our work feeling more confident in what we had to offer in the world of body liberation.In this episode Katie and I discuss Fat activism and the co-opting of the term “body positive”, we walk about size exclusive spaces and community creation and Body Image feelings in the “re-opening”world.If the part of the conversation about having some difficult body image feelings as we come back together in person resonated, and you want to know more about our workshop Coping with the new new normal , make sure to sign up for my newsletter, or to follow me on Instagram. The workshop runs Wednesday Nov 24th 7-9pm est, and is available for replay, but it will be edited to not include group discussion, so come live if you can.  Check out the event hereMake sure to follow Katie on instagram @katiemccrindlecounselling or their website at https://www.katiemccrindle.com/You can explore the Fat Chat community on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/groups/fatchathamiltonWant to know more? You can always reach me at jogalemovement@gmail.com with questions!Website and newsletter sign up: https://jo-gale.com/Instagram: @jogale.movesThe Move Room: @move.room.hamont or sign up for the Move Room newsletter here